Let's buy GIMPS an Opteron! - Page 6

Xyzzy · 2003-09-02, 19:49

It is a PIX firewall...

Erix · 2003-09-02, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xyzzy

It is a PIX firewall...

Thanks. I'm reading about it at cisco.com but I couldn't understand what is the difference between a router and pix firewall? Are they the same thing?

outlnder · 2003-09-02, 20:32

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I spent close to 8 hours trying to get it to post with no keyboard, but there is no combination in the BIOS that will allow that... I suppose maybe I'll pick up a USB keyboard because I sure hate yanking the PS/2 keyboard...

What about "Stop on" "No Errors"?

Should be first page of the Bios.

Xyzzy · 2003-09-02, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erix

Thanks. I'm reading about it at cisco.com but I couldn't understand what is the difference between a router and pix firewall? Are they the same thing?

No... The 501 just happens to have a router built in... No other PIX (AFAIK) does... It is geared more towards the SOHO market...

Xyzzy · 2003-09-02, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlnder

What about "Stop on" "No Errors"?

Should be first page of the Bios.

Yes, I tried that of course... There is even an option to disable the keyboard, but when you do that it still doesn't work, and since the keyboard is disabled you can't get back into the BIOS without clearing it...

:(

clowns789 · 2003-09-03, 00:25

Xyzzy,

When you get the computer to George you should ask Prime Monster if he needs any more motherboards. I noticed he has a server connected to a hub and then ten P4 motherboards and one AMD. I think it might be interesting to contribute if he wants. I'll PM him too.

Prime Monster · 2003-09-03, 01:10

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Originally Posted by clowns789

Xyzzy,

When you get the computer to George you should ask Prime Monster if he needs any more motherboards. I noticed he has a server connected to a hub and then ten P4 motherboards and one AMD. I think it might be interesting to contribute if he wants. I'll PM him too.

I actually have 24 mobos (11 P4s, 7 AMD XPs and 6 PIIIs) running headless/diskless/etc :D and yes I am looking for some new boards, but not immediately. Will probably go for a P4 combo again, as I feel quite comfortable with them.

PM

E_tron · 2003-09-03, 03:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prime Monster

Quote:

Originally Posted by clowns789

Xyzzy,

When you get the computer to George you should ask Prime Monster if he needs any more motherboards. I noticed he has a server connected to a hub and then ten P4 motherboards and one AMD. I think it might be interesting to contribute if he wants. I'll PM him too.

I actually have 24 mobos (11 P4s, 7 AMD XPs and 6 PIIIs) running headless/diskless/etc :D and yes I am looking for some new boards, but not immediately. Will probably go for a P4 combo again, as I feel quite comfortable with them.

PM

Are you waiting for the release of the Athlon64 and P5, so you can pick up some P4's on the cheap side :) ?

Xyzzy · 2003-09-03, 04:27

It appears that the Redhat preview does not support 32-bit mode, so tonight I'm going to put SuSE on... I'll email updated login info to everyone ASAP...

Xyzzy · 2003-09-03, 06:14

Here is a benchmark from SuSE... I'm pretty sure it is in 32-bit mode...

Code:

AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 140
CPU speed: 1395.95 MHz
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, PREFETCH, MMX, SSE, SSE2
L1 cache size: 64 KB
L2 cache size: 1024 KB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 64 bytes
L1 TLBS: 32
L2 TLBS: 512
Prime95 version 23.5, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 384K FFT length: 32.590 ms.
Best time for 448K FFT length: 38.989 ms.
Best time for 512K FFT length: 44.109 ms.
Best time for 640K FFT length: 54.951 ms.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 66.901 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 80.841 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 91.071 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 121.700 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 148.412 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 178.064 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 200.169 ms.

Xyzzy · 2003-09-03, 06:20

More stuff...

[code:1]opteron:/ # uname -a
Linux opteron 2.4.19 #1 Wed Jun 25 21:34:14 UTC 2003 x86_64 unknown unknown GNU/Linux[/code:1]

[code:1]opteron:/ # hdparm -Tt /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.21 seconds =609.52 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.39 seconds = 46.04 MB/sec[/code:1]

[code:1]opteron:/ # gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib64/gcc-lib/x86_64-suse-linux/3.3/specs
Configured with: ../configure --enable-threads=posix --prefix=/usr --with-local-prefix=/usr/local --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --libdir=/usr/lib64 --enable-languages=c,c++,f77,objc,java,ada --disable-checking --enable-libgcj --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/g++ --with-slibdir=/lib64 --with-system-zlib --enable-shared --enable-__cxa_atexit x86_64-suse-linux
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.3 (SuSE Linux)[/code:1]

Erix · 2003-09-03, 06:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xyzzy

No... The 501 just happens to have a router built in... No other PIX (AFAIK) does... It is geared more towards the SOHO market...

Thanks Xyzzy.

Dresdenboy · 2003-09-03, 08:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xyzzy

Here is a benchmark from SuSE... I'm pretty sure it is in 32-bit mode...

Could you make a benchmark with disabled SSE2 please? If there are really harming SSE2 issues then x87 code could be a little faster.

Xyzzy · 2003-09-03, 09:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dresdenboy

Could you make a benchmark with disabled SSE2 please? If there are really harming SSE2 issues then x87 code could be a little faster.

Code:

AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 140
CPU speed: 1396.08 MHz
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, PREFETCH, MMX, SSE
L1 cache size: 64 KB
L2 cache size: 1024 KB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 64 bytes
L1 TLBS: 32
L2 TLBS: 512
Prime95 version 23.5, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 384K FFT length: 36.584 ms.
Best time for 448K FFT length: 41.377 ms.
Best time for 512K FFT length: 45.026 ms.
Best time for 640K FFT length: 60.961 ms.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 72.321 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 87.900 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 96.657 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 124.453 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 151.075 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 180.411 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 201.764 ms.

Dresdenboy · 2003-09-03, 09:58

Thank you.

Only little differences between x87 and SSE2 here... very interesting. It looks like the current code is limited by one of the architectural units (FPU, cache, decoders, whatever).

Xyzzy · 2003-09-03, 16:26

I just ran the TLC SETI benchmark work unit... It took 4 hours 24 minutes and 18.61 seconds...

You can read how the benchmark works here...

http://www.teamlambchop.com/bench/benchfile.htm

And here are the results...

http://cox-internet.com/setispy/tlctop200.htm

I honestly expected it to be much faster... :(

Xyzzy · 2003-09-04, 07:48

They say Linux is free, if your time is worth nothing...

I spent a whole day tracking down a mysterious bug that was preventing sftp from working... Eventually I found the answer here...

http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-amd64/2003-Aug/0036.html

I'm only posting this so if I have this problem again I have the solution documented!

dsouza123 · 2003-09-04, 13:40

I am just curious, looking at the TLC SETI benchmark page using the link provided, it has one mysterious colum CpF with values ranging from 1.29 to 11.12 .

What is it and how is it calculated ? Is it some sort of efficiency calc ?

Bok · 2003-09-04, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xyzzy

They say Linux is free, if your time is worth nothing...

I spent a whole day tracking down a mysterious bug that was preventing sftp from working... Eventually I found the answer here...

http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-amd64/2003-Aug/0036.html

I'm only posting this so if I have this problem again I have the solution documented!

Xyzzy,

sorry, I came across this over last weekend as well, should have mentioned it.

Bok

GP2 · 2003-09-04, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bok

Dresdenboy,

I'm not sure what a revision C is?? But it's a brand new 1.8Ghz model.. I'll run mprime on it today, see what it does.

Bok

See earlier in this thread:
http://www.mersenneforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=9922#9922
and the two following messages.

It turns out that our GIMPS Opteron is only revision B, which may or may not be a problem with respect to poor benchmarks, if I'm reading those messages correctly.

Bok · 2003-09-04, 16:01

ahh,

ok, I'll try and run the same benchmarks when I get back home tomorrow.

Bok :)

Xyzzy · 2003-09-04, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsouza123

I am just curious, looking at the TLC SETI benchmark page using the link provided, it has one mysterious colum CpF with values ranging from 1.29 to 11.12 .

What is it and how is it calculated ? Is it some sort of efficiency calc ?

http://cox-internet.com/setispy/efficiency.htm

2003-09-04, 17:22

I tested the ecc2-109 client on xyzzy's opteron. The results were as follows:

Official core 855k Iterations per second ~ 610 Iteration per Megahertz
aloha core (a new optimized core) 920k Iterations per second ~ 657 Iterations per Mhz

All of the results from other cpus were obtained with the official core.

Results from AXP 1600+ running at the same frequency range from 752 to 802k Its/sec.

Interrestingly enough the only other cpu which can rival the opteron in Iterations / Mhz is the centrino. A 1400 Centrino was reported to get 853k Its/sec.

P4s do not usually perform as well in ecc2-109 the closest P4 I could find is a 1.6 Ghz P4 and runs around 592k Its/s.
The average for non HT enabled P4 is around 370 Iterations per Mhz and 420 for HT P4s

Cheers,
Marc

Prime95 · 2003-09-04, 19:27

To bok, who may have a revision C Opteron. If it is revision C run p95tst, do Advanced/Time 20000000, and post the strange timer results in results.txt.

To those running timings on the opteron: I've started an mprime running. To pause it for benchmarking purposes, run the program /home/gw/pauser. Within 2 minutes mprime will stop running until you kill pauser. Please remember to kill pauser before you logout.

BTW, credit for this CPU's results will go to TeamOpteron

GP2 · 2003-09-04, 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prime95

To bok, who may have a revision C Opteron. If it is revision C run p95tst, do Advanced/Time 20000000, and post the strange timer results in results.txt.

I wonder if there is any other way to tell what revision it is, other than looking at the markings on the CPU, which is impractical after thermal compound and heat sink have been applied. Do the CPUID programs out there handle this yet?

Just curious; I don't have an Opteron myself.

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2003-09-02, 19:49	#126
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 10000000110101₂ Posts	It is a PIX firewall...

2003-09-03, 00:25	#131
clowns789 Jun 2003 The Computer 188₁₆ Posts	Xyzzy, When you get the computer to George you should ask Prime Monster if he needs any more motherboards. I noticed he has a server connected to a hub and then ten P4 motherboards and one AMD. I think it might be interesting to contribute if he wants. I'll PM him too.

2003-09-03, 04:27	#134
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 10000000110101₂ Posts	It appears that the Redhat preview does not support 32-bit mode, so tonight I'm going to put SuSE on... I'll email updated login info to everyone ASAP...

2003-09-03, 06:20	#136
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 5×17×97 Posts	More stuff... [code:1]opteron:/ # uname -a Linux opteron 2.4.19 #1 Wed Jun 25 21:34:14 UTC 2003 x86_64 unknown unknown GNU/Linux[/code:1] [code:1]opteron:/ # hdparm -Tt /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.21 seconds =609.52 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.39 seconds = 46.04 MB/sec[/code:1] [code:1]opteron:/ # gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/lib64/gcc-lib/x86_64-suse-linux/3.3/specs Configured with: ../configure --enable-threads=posix --prefix=/usr --with-local-prefix=/usr/local --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --libdir=/usr/lib64 --enable-languages=c,c++,f77,objc,java,ada --disable-checking --enable-libgcj --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/g++ --with-slibdir=/lib64 --with-system-zlib --enable-shared --enable-__cxa_atexit x86_64-suse-linux Thread model: posix gcc version 3.3 (SuSE Linux)[/code:1]

2003-09-03, 09:58	#140
Dresdenboy Apr 2003 Berlin, Germany 551₈ Posts	Thank you. Only little differences between x87 and SSE2 here... very interesting. It looks like the current code is limited by one of the architectural units (FPU, cache, decoders, whatever).

2003-09-03, 16:26	#141
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 8245₁₀ Posts	I just ran the TLC SETI benchmark work unit... It took 4 hours 24 minutes and 18.61 seconds... You can read how the benchmark works here... http://www.teamlambchop.com/bench/benchfile.htm And here are the results... http://cox-internet.com/setispy/tlctop200.htm I honestly expected it to be much faster... :(

2003-09-04, 07:48	#142
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 5×17×97 Posts	They say Linux is free, if your time is worth nothing... I spent a whole day tracking down a mysterious bug that was preventing sftp from working... Eventually I found the answer here... http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-amd64/2003-Aug/0036.html I'm only posting this so if I have this problem again I have the solution documented!

2003-09-04, 13:40	#143
dsouza123 Sep 2002 2·331 Posts	I am just curious, looking at the TLC SETI benchmark page using the link provided, it has one mysterious colum CpF with values ranging from 1.29 to 11.12 . What is it and how is it calculated ? Is it some sort of efficiency calc ?

2003-09-04, 16:01	#146
Bok Aug 2003 5² Posts	ahh, ok, I'll try and run the same benchmarks when I get back home tomorrow. Bok :)

2003-09-04, 17:22	#148
Just_Lurking 3×5×229 Posts	I tested the ecc2-109 client on xyzzy's opteron. The results were as follows: Official core 855k Iterations per second ~ 610 Iteration per Megahertz aloha core (a new optimized core) 920k Iterations per second ~ 657 Iterations per Mhz All of the results from other cpus were obtained with the official core. Results from AXP 1600+ running at the same frequency range from 752 to 802k Its/sec. Interrestingly enough the only other cpu which can rival the opteron in Iterations / Mhz is the centrino. A 1400 Centrino was reported to get 853k Its/sec. P4s do not usually perform as well in ecc2-109 the closest P4 I could find is a 1.6 Ghz P4 and runs around 592k Its/s. The average for non HT enabled P4 is around 370 Iterations per Mhz and 420 for HT P4s Cheers, Marc

2003-09-04, 19:27	#149
Prime95 P90 years forever! Aug 2002 Yeehaw, FL 19×397 Posts	To bok, who may have a revision C Opteron. If it is revision C run p95tst, do Advanced/Time 20000000, and post the strange timer results in results.txt. To those running timings on the opteron: I've started an mprime running. To pause it for benchmarking purposes, run the program /home/gw/pauser. Within 2 minutes mprime will stop running until you kill pauser. Please remember to kill pauser before you logout. BTW, credit for this CPU's results will go to TeamOpteron