Let's buy GIMPS an Opteron! - Page 5

outlnder · 2003-08-30, 17:04

What, you couldn't sleep in front of the door??

nomadicus · 2003-08-30, 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xyzzy

I was sleeping when FedEx tried to deliver the motherboard today so I don't think we'll get it until Monday... :(

Does FedEx deliver on Labor Day?

QuintLeo · 2003-08-30, 18:28

Usually you can call them and set up for "pickup".

Unfortunately, that's what I've pretty much ALWAYS had to do with FedEx - and around her, it's a 50 mile trip EACH WAY to their pickup facility.

Main reason I hate dealing with FedEx - they ALWAYS try to deliver when I'm not here or asleep....

Xyzzy · 2003-08-30, 18:55

My wife drove to the FedEx place today and picked it up, and then she stopped by Wendy's and got me a Spicy Chicken combo... She must be up to something...

I'll post some assembly pictures in a few hours...

Xyzzy · 2003-08-30, 20:35

Here is the memory, processor and heat sink installed on the motherboard... Note the crazy bracket on the underside of the motherboard...

http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron11.jpg

http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron12.jpg

Xyzzy · 2003-08-30, 21:38

This would go faster but the hired help is getting in the way...

http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron13.jpg

Here is the motherboard installed in the case with the case wires hooked up...

http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron14.jpg

Xyzzy · 2003-08-31, 00:25

Here is the completed case...

http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron15.jpg

Xyzzy · 2003-08-31, 00:37

It fired right up with no problems... I had it boot an old copy of Windows XP so right now it is in 32-bit mode... Here is a quick benchmark...

Code:

AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 140
CPU speed: 1396.10 MHz
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, PREFETCH, MMX, SSE, SSE2
L1 cache size: 64 KB
L2 cache size: 1024 KB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 64 bytes
L1 TLBS: 32
L2 TLBS: 512
Prime95 version 23.6, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 384K FFT length: 32.474 ms.
Best time for 448K FFT length: 38.912 ms.
Best time for 512K FFT length: 43.856 ms.
Best time for 640K FFT length: 55.044 ms.
Best time for 768K FFT length: 66.848 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 81.123 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 91.083 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 122.083 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 149.099 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 179.224 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 201.359 ms.

I forgot that we need to buy a CD drive for it so I'll order one Monday morning... Until then I'll use the one from my game box...

I slapped in a network card that I know is supported under Linux... Hopefully getting the ones on the motherboard to work will be easy...

The 13GB drive my Mom donated won't spin up... I'm not sure why. but I'll look into it... If I can't figure it out by Monday morning I'll order a cheap 40GB one then... For now I have put in one of my old 1GB drives...

Overall the box is surprisingly quiet...

I'll post more in a few hours...

nomadicus · 2003-08-31, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xyzzy

Here is the memory, processor and heat sink installed on the motherboard... Note the crazy bracket on the underside of the motherboard...

I just installed a pair of Xeons on an ASUS PP-DLW motherboard. Same crazy looking bracket (using the Intel supplied heatsink/fan, ASUS didn't supply a bracket thingie). Is your bracket insulated (the part facing the motherboard) and is used for attaching the heatsink/fan assembly? Just curious.

btw - Does the fan blow air down onto the heatsink?

Xyzzy · 2003-09-01, 00:07

Quote:

I just installed a pair of Xeons on an ASUS PP-DLW motherboard. Same crazy looking bracket (using the Intel supplied heatsink/fan, ASUS didn't supply a bracket thingie). Is your bracket insulated (the part facing the motherboard) and is used for attaching the heatsink/fan assembly? Just curious.

Yes, it has insulation on the side that faces the motherboard, and it has two parts that stick through to the top of the motherboard that the heat sink bracket screws into...

Quote:

btw - Does the fan blow air down onto the heatsink?

Yes... It's actually difficult to tell which way it is working because it moves only a very small amount of air... I'm really surprised at how cool this thing runs and how quiet it is... I bet I could even remove the 2 rear case fans but since they are already installed I'll leave them there...

Xyzzy · 2003-09-01, 00:33

The box has passed a 12 hour torture test running Mprime 23.5 under 32-bit Linux... I tried to get a benchmark under 64-bit Linux but Prime95 would not run...

Code:

-bash: ./mprime: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory

Now all I have to do is put the box back together and put it into my network... I hope to complete that tonight...

I ended up going with Red Hat 9 Linux... It was just the easiest to install for me... I have ISOs burned of all the distros I listed earlier so changing to a different one wouldn't be too difficult...

Wacky · 2003-09-01, 00:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xyzzy

This would go faster but the hired help is getting in the way...

http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron13.jpg

Here is the motherboard

That's the problem ......

Mother bored.

Fusion_power · 2003-09-01, 03:31

Wackerbarth,

That could be a perfectly innocuous comment or a risque effort at a bad pun!

Xyzzy,

I suspected that prime95 would fail under a 64 bit OS. 32bit mode would be the only reasonable way to get it to execute. George will have to do some code work before it will run in native 64 bit.

Fusion

Xyzzy · 2003-09-01, 07:36

I just got back from the ER... Apparently I have a kidney stone... All I know is I am in some serious pain... They gave me morphine and percocet so it might take me a bit longer to set stuff up... I've worked with morphine before when I was a medic, but I've never had it myself... I am very impressed with it now that I have... We're talking going from unimaginable pain to feeling quite good in less than 15 seconds...

Hopefully in the morning I'll be able to get some more work done!

Dresdenboy · 2003-09-01, 07:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fusion_power

Wackerbarth,

That could be a perfectly innocuous comment or a risque effort at a bad pun!

Xyzzy,

I suspected that prime95 would fail under a 64 bit OS. 32bit mode would be the only reasonable way to get it to execute. George will have to do some code work before it will run in native 64 bit.

Fusion

That's a software problem (on OS side) because 64bit long mode has a compatibility mode where 32bit apps could run side by side with 64bit apps.

No need for recompilation - as long as one doesn't want to use the advantages of 64bit mode.

Fusion_power · 2003-09-01, 12:28

My neighbor has a long history of kidney stones. The doctor tells him to drink lots of water and avoid tea and certain leafy green vegetables because they contain oxalic acid.

He has a homemade remedy that dates back several hundred years and seems to be quite effective. He chops up about a cup of watermelon seed and brews a thick tea from them. He tries to drink at least a gallon in 8 hours. Usually that clears them up within a day or so. The last one he had was the size of a small marble so it took surgery.

Fusion

Bok · 2003-09-01, 18:35

I've got mine up and running now on Suse Enterprise Linux 8.2 beta 64-bit mode. Struggled with the on-board nic, which will not work.... but I put in a different nic and all seems well. Been running the seti 64bit client just to see how it runs. 2:40 for a wu or so.

Any of the developers wish to get on ?? I have a nat tunnel for ssh through my firewall direct to the box.

Bok

Dresdenboy · 2003-09-02, 08:20

If you have a revision C, please run mprime on it! ;)

I'm still thinking of a way how to get a rev C Opteron w/o having to buy the top models. I hope the new revision will migrate into the lower models soon.

Xyzzy · 2003-09-02, 08:34

It's alive!

I spent close to 8 hours trying to get it to post with no keyboard, but there is no combination in the BIOS that will allow that... I suppose maybe I'll pick up a USB keyboard because I sure hate yanking the PS/2 keyboard...

Be aware that George has the right to boot everyone off if he needs to run some timings... Also be aware that everything is logged so play nice...

Don't think this is a borg opportunity either... :)

I'm not sure exactly what criteria George wants to use to allow or disallow access, but I think we'll be a bit conservative until he decides on a course of action... I suppose interested parties will contact George and he'll forward the approved people my way... (I really don't want to make decisions like that!)

We only support port 22 connections, so that means SSH, SCP and SFTP... If you need a client or a quick tutorial just let me know... Linux already has this stuff built in, but if you use Windows, here is a nice free client...

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~s.../download.html

Be aware that periodically backing up your user files would be a smart move... :)

I ended up installing a WD400JB hard drive... This drive cost us $66 from Newegg... That leaves us with $925.13 in donations, $814.33 spent, and $110.80 left... I expect the CD drive will cost us around 25 bux... The hard drive we were going to use is making a high pitched squal as if the bearings are shot... It actually didn't spin up at first, so I suppose it isn't in good shape... The good news is the new drive is pretty fast...

Code:

[root@opteron root]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hda
 
/dev/hda:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.20 seconds =640.00 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.38 seconds = 46.38 MB/sec

Here's a snippit from uname...

Code:

[root@opteron root]# uname -a
Linux opteron 2.4.20-9.2 #1 Thu Apr 10 12:00:25 EDT 2003 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Here is some gcc info...

Code:

[root@opteron root]# gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.2.2/specs
Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --disable-checking --with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit --host=x86_64-redhat-linux
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.2.2 20030313 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-10)

Anyways, I'll post a picture here in a minute and later on today I'll go into a bit more detail about how it is set up...

:)

Bok · 2003-09-02, 11:58

Dresdenboy,

I'm not sure what a revision C is?? But it's a brand new 1.8Ghz model.. I'll run mprime on it today, see what it does.

xyzzy, I'm out of town in Boston for the next few days, but I'll give you a call when I get back. How was the RH install ?? Taroon right?

Bok

tom11784 · 2003-09-02, 13:31

what's the difference between mprime and prime95?

Dresdenboy · 2003-09-02, 14:22

Mprime is the linux version.

Xyzzy · 2003-09-02, 19:13

A picture of the final setup... The Opteron is the box right next to the monitor...

http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron16.jpg

Xyzzy · 2003-09-02, 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bok

How was the RH install ?? Taroon right?

Actually I used GinGin...

ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/preview/gingin64/en/iso/x86_64/

I have ISOs for Taroon so if we needed to switch it would be easy...

The only configuration I had to do was to enable sshd and open port 22... Everything else worked great right from the start...

I installed *everything*... :)

Erix · 2003-09-02, 19:46

Can I ask what the thing on top of the monitor is? I'm just curious.

2003-08-31, 00:37	#108
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 20065₈ Posts	It fired right up with no problems... I had it boot an old copy of Windows XP so right now it is in 32-bit mode... Here is a quick benchmark... Code: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 140 CPU speed: 1396.10 MHz CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, PREFETCH, MMX, SSE, SSE2 L1 cache size: 64 KB L2 cache size: 1024 KB L1 cache line size: 64 bytes L2 cache line size: 64 bytes L1 TLBS: 32 L2 TLBS: 512 Prime95 version 23.6, RdtscTiming=1 Best time for 384K FFT length: 32.474 ms. Best time for 448K FFT length: 38.912 ms. Best time for 512K FFT length: 43.856 ms. Best time for 640K FFT length: 55.044 ms. Best time for 768K FFT length: 66.848 ms. Best time for 896K FFT length: 81.123 ms. Best time for 1024K FFT length: 91.083 ms. Best time for 1280K FFT length: 122.083 ms. Best time for 1536K FFT length: 149.099 ms. Best time for 1792K FFT length: 179.224 ms. Best time for 2048K FFT length: 201.359 ms. I forgot that we need to buy a CD drive for it so I'll order one Monday morning... Until then I'll use the one from my game box... I slapped in a network card that I know is supported under Linux... Hopefully getting the ones on the motherboard to work will be easy... The 13GB drive my Mom donated won't spin up... I'm not sure why. but I'll look into it... If I can't figure it out by Monday morning I'll order a cheap 40GB one then... For now I have put in one of my old 1GB drives... Overall the box is surprisingly quiet... I'll post more in a few hours...

2003-09-01, 00:33	#111
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 8245₁₀ Posts	The box has passed a 12 hour torture test running Mprime 23.5 under 32-bit Linux... I tried to get a benchmark under 64-bit Linux but Prime95 would not run... Code: -bash: ./mprime: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: bad ELF interpreter: No such file or directory Now all I have to do is put the box back together and put it into my network... I hope to complete that tonight... I ended up going with Red Hat 9 Linux... It was just the easiest to install for me... I have ISOs burned of all the distros I listed earlier so changing to a different one wouldn't be too difficult...

2003-09-02, 08:34	#119
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 5×17×97 Posts	It's alive! I spent close to 8 hours trying to get it to post with no keyboard, but there is no combination in the BIOS that will allow that... I suppose maybe I'll pick up a USB keyboard because I sure hate yanking the PS/2 keyboard... Be aware that George has the right to boot everyone off if he needs to run some timings... Also be aware that everything is logged so play nice... Don't think this is a borg opportunity either... :) I'm not sure exactly what criteria George wants to use to allow or disallow access, but I think we'll be a bit conservative until he decides on a course of action... I suppose interested parties will contact George and he'll forward the approved people my way... (I really don't want to make decisions like that!) We only support port 22 connections, so that means SSH, SCP and SFTP... If you need a client or a quick tutorial just let me know... Linux already has this stuff built in, but if you use Windows, here is a nice free client... http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~s.../download.html Be aware that periodically backing up your user files would be a smart move... :) I ended up installing a WD400JB hard drive... This drive cost us $66 from Newegg... That leaves us with $925.13 in donations, $814.33 spent, and $110.80 left... I expect the CD drive will cost us around 25 bux... The hard drive we were going to use is making a high pitched squal as if the bearings are shot... It actually didn't spin up at first, so I suppose it isn't in good shape... The good news is the new drive is pretty fast... Code: [root@opteron root]# hdparm -Tt /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.20 seconds =640.00 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.38 seconds = 46.38 MB/sec Here's a snippit from uname... Code: [root@opteron root]# uname -a Linux opteron 2.4.20-9.2 #1 Thu Apr 10 12:00:25 EDT 2003 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Here is some gcc info... Code: [root@opteron root]# gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-redhat-linux/3.2.2/specs Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --disable-checking --with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit --host=x86_64-redhat-linux Thread model: posix gcc version 3.2.2 20030313 (Red Hat Linux 3.2.2-10) Anyways, I'll post a picture here in a minute and later on today I'll go into a bit more detail about how it is set up... :)

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2003-08-30, 17:04	#101
outlnder Aug 2002 2·3·53 Posts	What, you couldn't sleep in front of the door??

2003-08-30, 18:28	#103
QuintLeo Oct 2002 Lost in the hills of Iowa 2⁶×7 Posts	Usually you can call them and set up for "pickup". Unfortunately, that's what I've pretty much ALWAYS had to do with FedEx - and around her, it's a 50 mile trip EACH WAY to their pickup facility. Main reason I hate dealing with FedEx - they ALWAYS try to deliver when I'm not here or asleep....

2003-08-30, 18:55	#104
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 5×17×97 Posts	My wife drove to the FedEx place today and picked it up, and then she stopped by Wendy's and got me a Spicy Chicken combo... She must be up to something... I'll post some assembly pictures in a few hours...

2003-08-30, 20:35	#105
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 5·17·97 Posts	Here is the memory, processor and heat sink installed on the motherboard... Note the crazy bracket on the underside of the motherboard... http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron11.jpg http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron12.jpg

2003-08-30, 21:38	#106
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 2035₁₆ Posts	This would go faster but the hired help is getting in the way... http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron13.jpg Here is the motherboard installed in the case with the case wires hooked up... http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron14.jpg

2003-08-31, 00:25	#107
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 20065₈ Posts	Here is the completed case... http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron15.jpg

2003-09-01, 03:31	#113
Fusion_power Aug 2003 Snicker, AL 7×137 Posts	Wackerbarth, That could be a perfectly innocuous comment or a risque effort at a bad pun! Xyzzy, I suspected that prime95 would fail under a 64 bit OS. 32bit mode would be the only reasonable way to get it to execute. George will have to do some code work before it will run in native 64 bit. Fusion

2003-09-01, 07:36	#114
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 2035₁₆ Posts	I just got back from the ER... Apparently I have a kidney stone... All I know is I am in some serious pain... They gave me morphine and percocet so it might take me a bit longer to set stuff up... I've worked with morphine before when I was a medic, but I've never had it myself... I am very impressed with it now that I have... We're talking going from unimaginable pain to feeling quite good in less than 15 seconds... Hopefully in the morning I'll be able to get some more work done!

2003-09-01, 12:28	#116
Fusion_power Aug 2003 Snicker, AL 7×137 Posts	My neighbor has a long history of kidney stones. The doctor tells him to drink lots of water and avoid tea and certain leafy green vegetables because they contain oxalic acid. He has a homemade remedy that dates back several hundred years and seems to be quite effective. He chops up about a cup of watermelon seed and brews a thick tea from them. He tries to drink at least a gallon in 8 hours. Usually that clears them up within a day or so. The last one he had was the size of a small marble so it took surgery. Fusion

2003-09-01, 18:35	#117
Bok Aug 2003 5² Posts	I've got mine up and running now on Suse Enterprise Linux 8.2 beta 64-bit mode. Struggled with the on-board nic, which will not work.... but I put in a different nic and all seems well. Been running the seti 64bit client just to see how it runs. 2:40 for a wu or so. Any of the developers wish to get on ?? I have a nat tunnel for ssh through my firewall direct to the box. Bok

2003-09-02, 08:20	#118
Dresdenboy Apr 2003 Berlin, Germany 19² Posts	If you have a revision C, please run mprime on it! ;) I'm still thinking of a way how to get a rev C Opteron w/o having to buy the top models. I hope the new revision will migrate into the lower models soon.

2003-09-02, 11:58	#120
Bok Aug 2003 31₈ Posts	Dresdenboy, I'm not sure what a revision C is?? But it's a brand new 1.8Ghz model.. I'll run mprime on it today, see what it does. xyzzy, I'm out of town in Boston for the next few days, but I'll give you a call when I get back. How was the RH install ?? Taroon right? Bok

2003-09-02, 13:31	#121
tom11784 Aug 2003 Upstate NY, USA 2×163 Posts	what's the difference between mprime and prime95?

2003-09-02, 14:22	#122
Dresdenboy Apr 2003 Berlin, Germany 551₈ Posts	Mprime is the linux version.

2003-09-02, 19:13	#123
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 2035₁₆ Posts	A picture of the final setup... The Opteron is the box right next to the monitor... http://www.mersenneforum.org/jpg/opteron16.jpg

2003-09-02, 19:46	#125
Erix Aug 2003 Turkey 2³ Posts	Can I ask what the thing on top of the monitor is? I'm just curious.