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Sep 2002
República de California
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OTOH, the ever-looser nature of the federal rules on retirement accounts, coupled with the Greenspan [and now the Bernanke] Fed's keeping interest rates much too low for much too long had the effect of essentially turning us into a nation of house-flippers and stock-market speculators. Had the Fed kept rates at a more-reasonable 5-6% level, there would never have been the massive flight to riskier investments by investors in search of a decent yield on their savings. The standard IRA marketing pitch of "assuming an average return of [pick a number between 5 and 10%], $10000 invested today would be worth [pick some impressively large number] at retirement" only reinforced this trend. |
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home prices were rising....... Whatever happened to the days when I was growing up when you could get a steady 5% on ordinary passbook savings???? I don't need a Bull Market. I would be happy with just a steady 5%. Personally speaking I would like to see a ban on ALL wall street investments except for taking long positions -- no derivatives, no hedge funds, no short selling, no commodities dealing, etc... These are all contrived games to allow legalized gambling. Why is Internet poker illegal, but gambling on Wall Street OK? The difference between the two is just a word: Wall Street calls it *investment*. To me, an investment is being part owner in a company that creates goods or services. When the company you own makes money, then you make money. The stock price of a profitable company should not go down. In today's climate, however, a company's stock price seems to have little to do with its long term viability and profitability. And I think that sucks. While I was working at RSA, one quarter the company's sales and profits grew by 30%. Terrific, right??? Wrong. Pundits had predicted more, so the company's stock dropped by 40%!!!!! The Gordon Gecko "I create nothing" seems to be the Wall Street creedo. These people build nothing. They create nothing of value. They simply make money off the buying and selling of others.... Let's get back to VALUE BASED investing. |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Stocks hit 5-year lows: Dow claws its way back - ends down 350 points, following 800-point deficit - after dropping below 10,000 for first time in 4 years.
Oil tumbles to 8-month low below $88: Global economic slowdown contributes to $6 decline in crude futures. Poll: 60% say depression 'likely': CNN Poll finds 6 of 10 believe a depression is somewhat or very likely - seeing 25% unemployed and millions homeless and hungry. A Small Piece of Good News (FNM/FRE related): Fannie, Freddie swaps may recover 92-94 pct area Quote:
Dollar hits 14-month high vs Euro, plummets against yen Quote:
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Sep 2002
República de California
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AP | U.S. consumer borrowing falls for the first time since January 1998
Note that this was *before* Black September. While not good for the short run state of the economy, finally a sign that consumers are starting to do the single most important thing needed for a long-term sustainable economy, namely deleverage themselves. [Not willingly, mind you, but we’ll take “kicking and screaming” over “not at all”]. |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Fed, ECB, BOE Cut Rates in Unprecedented Response to Combat Credit Freeze: The Federal Reserve, European Central Bank and four other central banks lowered interest rates in an unprecedented coordinated effort to ease the economic effects of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.
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Pending Home Resales in U.S. Increase 7.4% as Foreclosures Reduce Prices: More Americans unexpectedly signed contracts in August to purchase previously owned homes as mounting foreclosures pushed down prices. U.S. Stocks `Halfway Through' Downturn After 36% Drop, ISI's De Graaf Says: U.S. stocks are only ``halfway through'' a decline that sent the Standard & Poor's Index down 36 percent in the past year, said Jeffrey de Graaf, a top-ranked market analyst. Massive UK Bank bail-out: The winners and losers: Interest rates have been cut by half a point and the Government has pledged billions of pounds in a bank bail-out but not every one is a winner World markets return to selloff: Global rate cut sends stocks down sharply in foreign markets after having mostly recovered from some heavy losses earlier in the day. Quote:
World & Emerging Markets: Mexican Peso Has Biggest Intraday Decline Since `Tequila Crisis' of 1994: Mexico's peso tumbled as much as 13.8 percent, its biggest intraday drop since a government devaluation in 1994, amid concern that a coordinated rate cut by central banks won't be enough to unfreeze global credit markets. : [i]Brazil Taps Reserves to Prop Up Falling Currency for First Time Since 2003: Brazil's central bank sold U.S. dollars in the spot market for the first time in more than five years after the real tumbled as much as 10 percent, the most since the 1999 devaluation. Russia, Indonesia Shut Exchanges as Rout Worsens; Brazilian Stocks Decline: Russia, Indonesia, Ukraine and Romania shut their stock exchanges and Brazilian stocks fell to the lowest in two years in the worst week for emerging markets in at least two decades on concern that a deepening credit crisis will halt global growth. U.S. Business: Nervous shoppers pull back: Wal-Mart and Costco's sales in September helped by consumers' shift to low-priced groceries. Clothing and department store sales slump as Americans cut back on everything else. Alcoa earnings drop 52%: The aluminum producer suspends buyback program after missing third-quarter profit expectations. Quote:
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Iceland Teeters on the Brink of Bankruptcy
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Re: Iceland
Maybe Canada or Denmark can pick up some land.
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"𒉺𒌌𒇷𒆷𒀭"
May 2003
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