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Nov 2003
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clause apply? Can Mom&Pop local store that went belly up sue the government because it too isn't getting a bailout? How can the U.S. govt. "selectively" bail out some companies but not others??? Does the 14th amendment apply? |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Great post this morning on Barry Ritholz` blog:
The Big Picture | Alternative Ideas for Rescue Plans: "How is it that Warren Buffett can cut a better deal with the best-run financial company in America than the U.S. Treasury can ask from the worst-run financial companies in America?" New home sales fall to 17-year low: Sales pace of new homes lowest since January 1991 as prices hit a four-year low and inventory remains high. Quote:
Durable goods orders fall 4.5%: Greatest decline in orders of manufactured goods since January signals continued economic weakness. My Comment: Not even the gubbermint`s mystical numerologists [sometimes, and incorrectly, referred to as "statisticians"] could put lipstick on this ... oh wait, musn`t use that horrifically misogynist expression. GE Cuts Earnings Forecast, Suspends Buyback on Financial-Services Weakness: General Electric Co. reduced its annual profit forecast for the second time this year and suspended its stock buyback as ``unprecedented weakness and volatility'' in credit markets hurt the company's finance arm. My Comment: We pray this won`t lead to staff reductions amongst the army of paid stock pumpers at their wholly-owned subsidiary, CNBC. Credit Stress Evident In TAF, Ted Spread, Everywhere: Credit dislocations continue to fester. Evidence can be found in corporate bonds, preferred shares, hybrids, the Ted Spread, and even in the most recent Term Auction Facility (TAF) auctions. Quote:
Nice post by reader Bam_Man in the commentary section to Mish`s latest article: Quote:
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Sep 2002
República de California
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So I just happened to be watching the Fannie Mae ticker [FNM] in the past 10 minutes, to see how the "bailout bill imminent" news would affect it. Apparently some major holder got cold feet [or perhaps a hedge fund wanted to manipulate this thing down in order to pick up a bunch of shares on the cheap], because in A SPAN OF ROUGHLY 5 MINUTES, FNM plunged from ~$2.30 to under $1.20, and went right back up to $2.30 again. I guess a 35M share block sell will do that. What likely happened is that as soon as that big sell hit the wire, the price dropped enough to start taking out all the trailing stops set by the legion of hedgies and day traders that are speculating in this issue these days. That caused a flood of secondary sell orders, the so-called "stop loss cascade".
I couldn't believe my eyes watching the live ticker, but just as a pure day-trading "I want a piece of this action, too" gambling play I tried to scoop up a decent-sized chunk of shares at 1.20 or better. During the 30 seconds or so that I was putting in my limit buy order, the thing rocketed up 50 cents per share. Damn - that would've nicely covered the money the government is going to take from me [one way or another] to bail out the Wall Street gamblers. Here's a Yahoo chart [these are 15 mins delayed, so I had to wait for it to capture the stop-loss event] showing the event: Last fiddled with by ewmayer on 2008-09-25 at 19:11 Reason: added chart |
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#543 |
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Jun 2003
The Texas Hill Country
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Who got us into this mess with Freddie and Fanny?
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...07149667289804 |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Plenty of blame to go around - but after dotcom imploded, people should certainly have known better. But Bush and Greenspan were so desperate to mitigate the aftereffects of the dotcom fiasco by any means necessary, they went stark raving nuts. Greenspan lowered interest rates to ~1% and kept them there for 5 YEARS, encouraged the explosion in "exotic" mortgages, and Bush irresponsibly cut taxes [especially on the wealthy] at the same time government spending on things like the Iraq war were shooting into the stratosphere. Whatever Clinton may have done, he didn't leave us with a trillion-dollar yearly account deficit. |
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"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA
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It was within Republicans' power for six years to rectify what Clinton did. We saw that they weren't shy about attacking Clinton. So why, oh, why didn't Republicans do something to prevent this disaster when it was completely within their power to do so? Obviously, it just wasn't important to them, like tax cuts were. So, spare us the GOP cries of "It's Clinton's fault!" If it was such a big mistake by Clinton, why didn't we hear Republicans at least complaining about it long before now, even if they didn't want to take action? (One may as well ask why George W. Bush -- after taking office from a president who had made it his administration's top priority to stop terrorist threats to the U.S. and had called FBI, CIA, and other department heads to the White House to "knock heads" together to find ways to coordinate their terrorism intelligence -- for seven-and-a-half months lowered the priority of terrorism intelligence while he made tax cuts for the wealthy his top priority.) Remember how Republicans were quick to give Reagan credit for stopping inflation, even though it was Carter who made the key change, while Reagan made no inflation-stopping move? Note that they were quick, there, to give an incoming president credit for something actually done by his successor. Now, why don't Republicans apply the same logic to responsibility for this subprime meltdown? The Republican Party no longer has the moral integrity it had, in part, in the Goldwater days, the integrity that I was taught it had when I was growing up. It has changed its core philosphy, to do anything for the sake of _power_ -- it will lie, cheat, steal from future generations, imperil our national security, contradict its claimed principles with its actions ... _anything_ to get the power to impose the conservative and fundamentalist worldviews on those who don't share them. Nixon's Watergate opened my eyes. Reagan puzzled me. Bush the Younger has educated me. The Republican turnaround that spans them disgusts me. Last fiddled with by cheesehead on 2008-09-26 at 01:04 |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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J.P. Morgan to Take Over Faltering WaMu: U.S. Government Helps Broker a Deal to Dispose of Huge Thrift; Banking Giant Expected to Get Deposits, Branches
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"Gang aft agley"
Sep 2002
72528 Posts |
Troubled Asset Relief Act and insolvencies September 25th, 2008
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May 2003
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As it has been explained to me, people overseas are afraid of the situation, and will start withdrawing their money. If enough of their money withdraws, more banks/businesses collapse, and the global economy goes into recession. The recent speech by the President is actually pretty good on that front (i.e. explaining the cuurent thinking [on both sides of the isle] on the situation). |
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Nov 2003
22·5·373 Posts |
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to point the finger of blame at the party they dislike the most: i.e. republitards or demotwits , it does nothing to solve the problem. There is plenty of blame for everyone: both parties, several presidents, greedy banks, fed chairmen, homeowners who took loans they could not pay, the SEC, policies that allowed one company to take an unreasonable risk, then sell it off to another, banks that were forced by law to sell to bad risk customers, (i.e. no redlining), laws that allowed UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION to count as "income" for loan purposes, etc. etc. etc. The blame game does not solve the problem. I don't like what has happened to the value of my IRA.... Let's fix the problem instead of trying to afix blame. |
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Aug 2003
Snicker, AL
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Washington Mutual bit the dust tonight and J.P. Morgan just got bigger by swallowing the debris. Politicians are doing what politicians do best, arguing.
Get ready for the big one folks, this looks really BAD. DarJones |
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