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Sep 2002
República de California
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n. 1. often Fascism a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government. 2. Oppressive, dictatorial control. |
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"Gang aft agley"
Sep 2002
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For those who are not sure what we are looking at, there is a copy/version of the "legislative proposal from Treasury Department for authority to buy mortgage-related assets" here: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2008/...l-to-congress/ The blog reader comments are edifying too. Several of them make points that I have not seen much in the media but have been creeping onto my radar. One is the shockingly monster sized derivatives market and the suggestion that the Mortgage Backed Security situation, while bad, isn't the correct target. But mortgages point to tangible property and it is easier to point a fist full of fingers there. This proposal is a sweeping grant of powers, possibly launched at the wrong target but would be grossly ineffectual if instead launched at the quadrillion dollar derivative mess. I wonder what will happen at the two year sunset of the powers. If the Treasury is still holding a lot of paper will the powers be extended? Or perhaps it will be convenient or politically dangerous not to extend them. Last fiddled with by only_human on 2008-09-21 at 06:19 |
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"Frank <^>"
Dec 2004
CDP Janesville
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Of course, if we, the taxpayers, can buy the MBSes at a substantial discount and very many fewer homeowners than anticipated go into foreclosure on the homes backing the bonds, it could still turn out to be a net gain for us. I guess the guideline about the price we're going to pay looks to be determined by this paragraph: Quote:
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"Gang aft agley"
Sep 2002
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Bill Maher had a guest on this week named Naomi Klein who had interesting things to say about government actions during situations like this. I can't seem to get past the flash header on Bill Maher's site to see if they have transcripts but here is a quote about her book: http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine/the-book Quote:
Last fiddled with by only_human on 2008-09-21 at 08:35 Reason: bold emphasis added |
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"Gang aft agley"
Sep 2002
72528 Posts |
UPDATE 2-Paulson: Foreign banks can use US rescue plan
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"Gang aft agley"
Sep 2002
EAA16 Posts |
http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsev.../20080921a.htm
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley Become Banks, Ending an Era for Wall Street: The Wall Street that shaped the financial world for two decades ended last night, when Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley concluded there is no future in remaining investment banks now that investors have determined the model is broken.
Fannie, Freddie Subprime Buying Spree May Add $100 Billion to Bailout Tab: Freddie Mac Chief Executive Officer Richard Syron stood before investors at New York's Palace Hotel in May last year lauding his company's ``cautious'' avoidance of the subprime-mortgage crisis. Write your local paper, senators and congressmen! Last night, I sent the following letter to the San Jose Mercury News, California senators Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein, and the members of the Senate Banking Committee: Quote:
Last fiddled with by ewmayer on 2008-09-22 at 17:02 |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Oil Skyrockets on Bailout Plan: Oil soars past $127 a barrel, up $23 in one day, its largest dollar-jump ever, as dollar swoons
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A trio of New York Times op-ed writers [of varying political slants] weighs in on the Paulson coup d'Etat proposal: NYT Blogs: Paul Krugman | Cash for Trash: Henry Paulson is demanding extraordinary power for himself to deploy taxpayers’ money on behalf of a plan that, as far as I can see, doesn’t make sense. Quote:
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The Fleecing of America: World leaders converge on a battered New York this week for the United Nations General Assembly, my advice to them is: think Damien Hirst. Mish Shedlock reminds his readers of his April 3 post in which he lays out his "Fed Uncertainty Principle", specifically FUP Corollary 2: Quote:
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Spotted in the reader comments to a recent article in Barry Ritholz`s The Big Picture blog:
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It's only Monday, and we already have our Moron of the Week: Multiple MotWee winner and Wall Street shill Paul LaMonica strikes again: Be ticked off - but get over it: You should be angry about the $700 billion plan to save banks. But once the rage subsides, realize that doing nothing would be disastrous. Quote:
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"Gang aft agley"
Sep 2002
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A subtext that we know but is worth mentioning occasionally is that most of the purchased securities have some value and that there will be some recovery of money spent -- with estimates varying from very little to making a profit. Of course, much depends on how much gaming and accommodation of special interests or friends occur. What will really tell me the fix is in is if we hear that this is a good time to totally revise paper currency and that existing currency will be devalued to help the the ongoing crisis. Then I will be in full panic mode. PS Assuming 100 million working Americans:
Last fiddled with by only_human on 2008-09-23 at 01:29 Reason: grammar correction, added postscript |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Morgan Stanley, Goldman Search for Deposits; Regional Banks May Be `Lunch': Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the two largest remaining independent U.S. securities firms, may add to the $81 billion of financial services deals unveiled during the past week as they morph into banks.
The irony here is that the Fed and Treasury`s desperate measure of last Thursday to guarantee [generally high-yielding] money market funds without limit until further notice in an effort to keep that $3 Trillion market from collapsing will likely hasten [or outright casue] the demise of many struggling regional banks, by hurting their ability to attract new deposits. The fact that Paulson`s ex-firm Goldman will be one of the chief beneficiaries of this [as well of the evntual Mother of All bailouts] should be no surprise ... it`s good to be frined of Hank. Paulson, Bernanke May Find Painful Parallels in 1990s Nordic Bailout, Bust: If Henry Paulson and Ben S. Bernanke want to know what happens when central banks and governments bail out financial institutions, they should be ``learning Swedish.'' But hey, these are the same idiots who completely ignored the painful decades-=long lessons of the Japanese real estate bubble and subsequent bust ... the arrogant "our markets are much more dynamic", "subprime crisis is contained", "financial system is sound" crowd. To learn a lesson, you have to first be willing to learn, which requires you to admit that you don`t know everything .. and folks like Paulson and Bernanke don`t strike me as fitting that mold, certainly not at this stage of their careers. The Independent | Fury at $2.5bn bonus for Lehman's New York staff Quote:
Last fiddled with by ewmayer on 2008-09-23 at 20:38 |
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