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P90 years forever!
Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL
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I didn't point a finger at the Democrats for Fannie's and Freddie's failures. I'm predicting the Democrats will exacerbate the problem now that the two companies are under government control. The Republicans don't care one whit about low-income mortgage holders, but the Democrats do. I hope I am wrong, but I stand by my prediction that the cost to U.S. taxpayers will only get worse from here.
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"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA
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Christian Science Monitor Editorial Board's take:
"The Big Secret in U.S. Housing -- What is the US Treasury's plan for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in case of federal takeover?" http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0825/p08s01-comv.html Quote:
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Aug 2002
Termonfeckin, IE
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Well I think that it is far better that low-income Americans - who pay a higher proportion of their income as taxes than the wealthy - benefit from any bailouts instead of corrupt bankers or people who "invested" in Fannie and Freddie with the full knowledge that stocks and bonds do decline in value and can go to zero.
So the Democrats may make the problem worse but it was already pretty pretty bad! We stand at the cusp of a major breakdown of the US financial system and by god the people behind the system brought it upon themselves. PS: Instead of predicting how Democrats will make the problem worse, why not spend a bit of time on how the Republicans created the problem? Last fiddled with by garo on 2008-09-06 at 22:24 |
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
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Nice pair of article by Fortune's Colin Barr on the implications of the unprecedented government intervention in the troubled GSEs this past weekend [both of these are excerpts - click links for the full text]:
Fannie, Freddie: The biggest losers: Investors in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac face massive losses when trading opens Monday. Quote:
Paulson changes the rules of the capital game: By taking control of Fannie and Freddie, the Treasury Secretary risks making it harder for other troubled financial firms to raise money. Quote:
Like me, Mike Shedlock is highly skeptical even of the "possibly several tens of billions of dollars" worst-case estimate of the eventual cost of the FNM and FRE bailout to the U.S. taxpayer - I believe the bidding here starts at a couple hundred billion, and agree with George that, assuming a not-outrageous 20% haircut on the roughly $5T combined mortgage portfolios [with the pain possibly being spread among the GSEs and the banks holding the mortgage-backed paper], a trillion-dollar worst-case estimate is not unthinkable. And if housing continues to fall nationwide, as it well may, all bets are off, because then even now-current-on-their-payments "prime" loans will start to go sour in large numbers, as ever-increasing numbers of homeowners find themselves deep underwater. The bottom line is that while this massive bailout ensures that the GSEs will continue to function in some shape or form, it does nothing to solve the underlying problem, namely that the largest debt-fueled speculative asset bubble in history is continuing to unwind itself, and that housing is *still* overvalued in a big way relative to incomes and to any reasonable historic norms. And since we didn't award a Moron-of-the-Week last week, I'm going to do it retroactively and give it to CNN/Money's resident delusional permaBull, Paul LaMonica, who once again gets it dead wrong: Why Wall Street loves the bailout: The takeover of Fannie and Freddie removes a huge cloud over the markets and could be a sign that the economic pain is closer to the end than beginning. That commentary is laced with wide-eyed optimistic sound bites from other like-minded permaBulls - apparently, these folks all drink from the same happy-pills-laced Kool-Aid. |
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Nov 2003
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
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P90 years forever!
Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL
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Sep 2002
República de California
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WSJ | U.S. Seizes Mortgage Giants Quote:
A nice "no free lunch" article about the GSE bailout/takeover from Fortune: Professional Bailout Number Six Quote:
And here is legendary Hedge Fund manager Jim Rogers' take on the Fannie and Freddie Follies: US Is "More Communist than China": Jim Rogers: The nationalization of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac shows that the U.S. is "more communist than China right now" but its brand of socialism is meant only for the rich. Last fiddled with by ewmayer on 2008-09-08 at 19:38 |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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UK Jobs outlook weakest in nine years
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U.S. Account Deficit up by $246 billion in a year: Congressional Budget Office cites 'substantial increase in spending' and 'halt' in tax revenue growth. Also says it will add Fannie and Freddie to future estimates. The $407 Billion 2008 deficit cited by the article is in fact a joke, because so many things are kept off the books - the cost of the Iraq war, for instance - and others are papered over using the "Social Security Trust Fund Surplus" accounting scam. But the quarter-trillion-dollar increase is probably fairly reliable - absent the potential cost of the Fannie/Freddie bailout, of course, and the big-bank-bailouts that are likely to come. [Which are all part of Henry Paulson's self-proclaimed "Banks must be allowed to fail" strategy. Yes, banks who take on excessive risk and make speculative bets which go spectacularly wrong must be allowed to fail ... Just not on his watch, as long as Congress gives him a blank check on the taxpayer`s dime, apparently.] |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Battered Lehman to announce results Wednesday: After shares were decimated Tuesday, the battered Wall Street firm says it will announce quarterly results and unveil 'key strategic initiatives' at 7:30 in the morning Wednesday.
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Government Payments to Wall Street for Auction-Rate Debt Wreck Escalate: Government officials are letting Wall Street banks pull off what makers of defective cars, computers and condos can't. After the collapse of a product banks created and controlled, they're charging the customers for repairs. Quote:
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Sep 2002
República de California
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Lehman suffers nearly $4 billion loss: Lehman Brothers suffered one of its worst quarterly losses in the company's history, reporting a loss of nearly $4 billion Wednesday, and announced a series of drastic steps aimed at reviving the beleaguered firm.
CNN/Money's Paul LaMonica seems to have cut back on the "delusional PermaBull happy pills" for this one: Lehman: Too big to fail?: 11:11am: Wall Street's tepid reaction to the investment bank's plan to raise capital might mean the Fed will have to save Lehman just as it did Bear Stearns Quote:
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