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2003-06-09, 15:16

Or apparently people that made the test, did not have a good IQ, and so is meaningless as an accurate assumption.

IQ, is best judged when you are young, because social status plays a role in the learning curve.

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ewmayer · 2003-06-09, 23:02

If you're going to use the standard technique of replacing a vowel that has an Umlaut in the German names with the same vowel followed by an 'e' (e.g. Ro"ntgen gets spelled Roentgen,) then it should be 'Schroedinger,' not 'Schrodinger.' (And it's not pronounced 'shrow-dinger', either - the o" is pronounced like the u in the english 'lurk.')

Guess that means it's back to square one for the Gaussian eliminators. :)

ewmayer · 2003-06-09, 23:09

BTW, I heard that Gauss' name was in the orginal wording of the puzzle, but being a mathematician, he was eliminated. Pauli OTOH was a physicist, but was, ahem, excluded, for other reasons.

trif · 2003-06-09, 23:24

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Originally Posted by Axel Fox

The question that is offered here, is from an IQ test for exceptionally high gifted people. They are supposed to recognize the pattern.

My IQ lies in the range of 140-160 (depending on the test's accuracy). Yet, I could not solve much of the questions in that particular IQ test. This IQ test is meant for people with an IQ of 180 or above.

Ditto. I didn't have too much trouble with the questions on the other four tests, but the last test was very difficult. However, these tests appear to test for a very limited subset of what I consider "intelligence", and that subset happens to be of things that interest me and which I am fairly good at, so it is no surprise that I got a good score. I'd be willing to bet they are things that the site owners are good at too. :)

I'm not sure what the use of IQ scores is other than to make people feel superior/inferior. The longer I live, there seems to be less and less relevance of "intelligence" as measured by an IQ test to real life.

I heard on the radio that Fox

is having a "Test the Nation" IQ program on Tuesday (tomorrow, I believe). It will be interesting to see what their version of an IQ test looks like. The irony of Fox having a program on IQ did not escape me.

trif · 2003-06-09, 23:32

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Originally Posted by ewmayer

If you're going to use the standard technique of replacing a vowel that has an Umlaut in the German names with the same vowel followed by an 'e' (e.g. Ro"ntgen gets spelled Roentgen,) then it should be 'Schroedinger,' not 'Schrodinger.' (And it's not pronounced 'shrow-dinger', either - the o" is pronounced like the u in the english 'lurk.')

Guess that means it's back to square one for the Gaussian eliminators. :)

The original puzzle mispelled (sp?) Planck too (Plank). Block (should be Bloch), Cherenkov (should be Cerenkov), and Lippman (should be Lippmann), are also not spelled correctly. When they redid the puzzle, they fixed Planck (and said it should have been so in the original puzzle), but did not fix the others. Things that make you go hmm.

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BTW, I heard that Gauss' name was in the orginal wording of the puzzle, but being a mathematician, he was eliminated. Pauli OTOH was a physicist, but was, ahem, excluded, for other reasons.

Boo hiss! :D

I think an excellent sense of humor is far more indicative of an intelligent person. Requires high linguistic and social skills, both of which are far more complex than deterministic puzzles.

ewmayer · 2003-06-09, 23:37

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Originally Posted by trif

The irony of Fox having a program on IQ did not escape me.

Ha - nice one, trif.

(Somewhere at Fox, a network exec is no doubt reading trif's post and thinking to his-or-herself, "I don't get it...better send Geraldo out to get to the bottom of this." Trif, if you see an oversize mustache carrying a microphone and a tub of hairgel coming to your door, don't answer it.)

cheesehead · 2003-06-10, 00:46

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Originally Posted by trif

I heard on the radio that Fox

is having a "Test the Nation" IQ program on Tuesday (tomorrow, I believe).

Nope. It's on RIGHT NOW. Started 45 minutes ago.

garo · 2003-06-10, 01:54

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BTW, I heard that Gauss' name was in the orginal wording of the puzzle, but being a mathematician, he was eliminated. Pauli OTOH was a physicist, but was, ahem, excluded, for other reasons.

Care to elucidate? A cursory search on google did not reveal anything "*ahem*".

And yeah, nice one trif!!

trif · 2003-06-10, 02:44

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Originally Posted by garo

Quote:

BTW, I heard that Gauss' name was in the orginal wording of the puzzle, but being a mathematician, he was eliminated. Pauli OTOH was a physicist, but was, ahem, excluded, for other reasons.

Care to elucidate? A cursory search on google did not reveal anything "*ahem*".

Okay, I was trying to figure out if there was a Euclid joke in there somewhere. :?

Gaussian elimination
Pauli exclusion principle

trif · 2003-06-10, 05:16

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Originally Posted by cheesehead

Quote:

Originally Posted by trif

I heard on the radio that Fox

is having a "Test the Nation" IQ program on Tuesday (tomorrow, I believe).

Nope. It's on RIGHT NOW. Started 45 minutes ago.

Well, I watched it somewhat later on the west coast. It was... ah... very Fox. The most interesting factoid was that the average IQ score of Nobel prize winners is 120. I'm thinking of a few that probably dragged that score down.

garo · 2003-06-10, 07:31

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Gaussian elimination
Pauli exclusion principle

Sheesh!! I must've been sleepwalking to miss that one.

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2003-06-09, 15:16	#12
TTn 21522₈ Posts	Or apparently people that made the test, did not have a good IQ, and so is meaningless as an accurate assumption. IQ, is best judged when you are young, because social status plays a role in the learning curve. 130

2003-06-09, 23:02	#13
ewmayer ∂²ω=0 Sep 2002 República de California 103·113 Posts	If you're going to use the standard technique of replacing a vowel that has an Umlaut in the German names with the same vowel followed by an 'e' (e.g. Ro"ntgen gets spelled Roentgen,) then it should be 'Schroedinger,' not 'Schrodinger.' (And it's not pronounced 'shrow-dinger', either - the o" is pronounced like the u in the english 'lurk.') Guess that means it's back to square one for the Gaussian eliminators. :)

2003-06-09, 23:09	#14
ewmayer ∂²ω=0 Sep 2002 República de California 103×113 Posts	BTW, I heard that Gauss' name was in the orginal wording of the puzzle, but being a mathematician, he was eliminated. Pauli OTOH was a physicist, but was, ahem, excluded, for other reasons.