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#701 |
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1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
3·5·313 Posts |
To interleave that is.
Or if I find the current 8GB stick is 1600 and I add a 2133 8Gb stick will it still interleave and get full dual-channel memory sharing? |
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#702 |
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"James Heinrich"
May 2004
ex-Northern Ontario
23·149 Posts |
Probably, but they'll both run at 1600, so you're wasting your money on faster RAM.
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#703 | |
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1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
3×5×313 Posts |
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Anyway if the benchmark gave him 7.68 ms for 2048 FFT on 1 core (equivalent to other similar CPUs); actual speeds of 16ms for all 4 cores concurrent; can I expect it to be a lot faster, that is I'm thinking 2400 or even 2133 DDR3 may be overkill; more than I need Thoughts.... |
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#704 |
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"James Heinrich"
May 2004
ex-Northern Ontario
23·149 Posts |
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#705 | |
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1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
469510 Posts |
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Same question though. Is it possible that could be capable of 7.68Ms times for 2048K FFT. If so at what RAM speed do I no longer get improvements...is the MB or CPU, etc become the bottleneck. |
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#706 |
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Aug 2002
North San Diego County
5·137 Posts |
Might be 1333 rather than 800; tiny "1" in close proximity to "3" looks like an "8".
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#707 |
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"/X\(‘-‘)/X\"
Jan 2013
2×5×293 Posts |
Well, a i7-6700 probably takes DDR4. The lowest common speed for DDR4 is 2133 MHz.
Get a stick of DDR4-2133 that matches the size of one of the existing sticks. |
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#708 |
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Just call me Henry
"David"
Sep 2007
Cambridge (GMT/BST)
7·292 Posts |
Assuming the motherboard does. It is unlikely that you would be able to replace ddr3 with ddr4. The sockets at least are different. There may be motherboards that support both.
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#709 |
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1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
3·5·313 Posts |
2X8GB DDR3 - 1866 and 2400 both under $100 ... what's that catch?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820104467 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820233585 |
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#710 |
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"James Heinrich"
May 2004
ex-Northern Ontario
23×149 Posts |
11-13-13 vs 10-11-10 CAS timings
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#711 | |
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1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
3×5×313 Posts |
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Does that CAS difference make up for the speed difference? In other words which is likely to perform better for GIMPS? Last fiddled with by petrw1 on 2016-08-26 at 22:23 |
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"James Heinrich"
May 2004
ex-Northern Ontario
23·149 Posts |
If your board can actually support DDR3-2400 then you're probably better with CAS11@2400 than CAS10@1866, but whether it will make any appreciable difference I can't say. I'm sure others can.
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#713 | |
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1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
3×5×313 Posts |
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Acer Aspire T3-710 V:1.1 |
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"/X\(‘-‘)/X\"
Jan 2013
2·5·293 Posts |
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It takes DDR3L-1600 at 1.35V. The memory at both those links won't work. Try this: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16820156047 |
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"James Heinrich"
May 2004
ex-Northern Ontario
23·149 Posts |
As a generalization: Probably not. "Brand name" systems tend to be equipped with parts that are just sufficient to run at their specified settings and no more. Greater abilities mean greater cost, and Acer's not going to pay for 2400MHz RAM support when they're only planning on putting 1333 (or whatever stock is) in there. If you didn't pick the motherboard and build the system yourself (or have your friend/store building it for you) then I wouldn't expect anything above 1600 (if that) to be supported on any brand-name system.
Last fiddled with by James Heinrich on 2016-08-26 at 23:01 |
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"/X\(‘-‘)/X\"
Jan 2013
2×5×293 Posts |
i5-6600 with DDR-2133:
[Work thread Aug 24 10:24] Benchmarking multiple workers to measure the impact of memory bandwidth [Work thread Aug 24 10:27] Timing 2048K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 2.57 ms. Total throughput: 388.96 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:27] Timing 2048K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 5.30, 5.30 ms. Total throughput: 377.27 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:27] Timing 2048K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 10.71, 10.71, 10.71, 10.71 ms. Total throughput: 373.41 iter/sec. ... [Work thread Aug 24 10:29] Timing 4096K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 5.40 ms. Total throughput: 185.15 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:29] Timing 4096K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 10.88, 10.78 ms. Total throughput: 184.67 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:29] Timing 4096K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 21.67, 21.70, 21.65, 21.64 ms. Total throughput: 184.64 iter/sec. Stock-clocked i7-4770k with DDR3-2400: [Work thread Aug 24 10:30] Timing 2048K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 2.63 ms. Total throughput: 380.55 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:30] Timing 2048K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 5.90, 5.58 ms. Total throughput: 348.60 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:30] Timing 2048K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 10.49, 10.42, 10.54, 10.42 ms. Total throughput: 382.13 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:31] Timing 2560K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 3.56 ms. Total throughput: 280.91 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:31] Timing 2560K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 6.81, 6.80 ms. Total throughput: 294.08 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:31] Timing 2560K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 13.53, 13.56, 13.67, 13.58 ms. Total throughput: 294.46 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:31] Timing 3072K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 4.36 ms. Total throughput: 229.51 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:31] Timing 3072K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 8.07, 8.09 ms. Total throughput: 247.56 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:32] Timing 3072K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 16.12, 16.11, 16.25, 16.13 ms. Total throughput: 247.63 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:32] Timing 3584K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 4.81 ms. Total throughput: 207.94 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:32] Timing 3584K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 9.69, 9.66 ms. Total throughput: 206.67 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:32] Timing 3584K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 19.07, 18.99, 18.99, 19.09 ms. Total throughput: 210.14 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:32] Timing 4096K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 5.51 ms. Total throughput: 181.46 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:33] Timing 4096K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 10.85, 10.83 ms. Total throughput: 184.52 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 24 10:33] Timing 4096K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 21.96, 21.98, 21.76, 21.81 ms. Total throughput: 182.84 iter/sec. And a 4770 with DDR3-1600: [Work thread Aug 26 20:48] Timing 1024K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 1.31 ms. Total throughput: 760.95 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:48] Timing 1024K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 3.30, 3.70 ms. Total throughput: 573.21 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:48] Timing 1024K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 7.04, 7.16, 7.98, 7.27 ms. Total throughput: 544.37 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:48] Timing 1280K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 1.99 ms. Total throughput: 502.73 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:48] Timing 1280K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 4.38, 4.43 ms. Total throughput: 453.94 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:48] Timing 1280K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 9.18, 9.07, 9.10, 9.17 ms. Total throughput: 438.16 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:49] Timing 1536K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 2.43 ms. Total throughput: 411.77 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:49] Timing 1536K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 5.29, 5.44 ms. Total throughput: 372.94 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:49] Timing 1536K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 10.91, 10.94, 11.06, 11.04 ms. Total throughput: 363.99 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:49] Timing 1792K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 3.06 ms. Total throughput: 326.68 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:49] Timing 1792K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 6.55, 6.56 ms. Total throughput: 305.11 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:50] Timing 1792K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 13.18, 13.22, 13.06, 13.43 ms. Total throughput: 302.52 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:50] Timing 2048K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 3.49 ms. Total throughput: 286.67 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:50] Timing 2048K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 8.08, 7.51 ms. Total throughput: 256.88 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:50] Timing 2048K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 14.76, 15.04, 14.82, 15.09 ms. Total throughput: 267.96 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:50] Timing 2560K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 4.63 ms. Total throughput: 216.13 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:51] Timing 2560K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 9.50, 9.62 ms. Total throughput: 209.26 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:51] Timing 2560K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 18.46, 19.41, 19.10, 18.90 ms. Total throughput: 210.98 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:51] Timing 3072K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 5.66 ms. Total throughput: 176.75 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:51] Timing 3072K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 11.60, 11.86 ms. Total throughput: 170.48 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:51] Timing 3072K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 23.17, 22.32, 22.55, 23.19 ms. Total throughput: 175.43 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:52] Timing 3584K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 6.68 ms. Total throughput: 149.66 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:52] Timing 3584K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 13.62, 13.55 ms. Total throughput: 147.24 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:52] Timing 3584K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 26.65, 26.95, 27.47, 27.59 ms. Total throughput: 147.27 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:52] Timing 4096K FFT, 4 cpus, 1 worker. Average times: 8.05 ms. Total throughput: 124.17 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:52] Timing 4096K FFT, 4 cpus, 2 workers. Average times: 15.30, 15.29 ms. Total throughput: 130.74 iter/sec. [Work thread Aug 26 20:53] Timing 4096K FFT, 4 cpus, 4 workers. Average times: 30.15, 30.57, 30.68, 30.75 ms. Total throughput: 131.00 iter/sec. |
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#717 | |
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1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
3×5×313 Posts |
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#718 | |
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"/X\(‘-‘)/X\"
Jan 2013
55628 Posts |
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When it's being used with DDR3, which is what the Acer page says the motherboard takes, it's limited to 1600 MHz and it must be low voltage DDR3, or DDR3L. |
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1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
111278 Posts |
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The before and after benchmarks are virtually the same but 4 cores doing DC-LL is about 12% faster due to balanced Dual RAM. |
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#720 |
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Just call me Henry
"David"
Sep 2007
Cambridge (GMT/BST)
7×292 Posts |
Cpu-z usually reports half the speed.
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1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
3×5×313 Posts |
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17 to under 13 ms on a 37.5M DC for all 4 cores Benchmark says it should be 13.5 for a 2048FFT with 4 cores....seems he is doing a little better (7.68 for 1 core alone) Last fiddled with by petrw1 on 2016-09-12 at 16:24 |
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#722 |
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"Antonio Key"
Sep 2011
UK
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1976 Toyota Corona years forever!
"Wayne"
Nov 2006
Saskatchewan, Canada
3×5×313 Posts |
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If so is there anything I can do to get to that speed? Or will that make no difference, that is, will the MB or some other component limit me to 800 anyway? |
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"Kieren"
Jul 2011
In My Own Galaxy!
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#725 |
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"James Heinrich"
May 2004
ex-Northern Ontario
23·149 Posts |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_data_rate
The RAM is running on an 800MHz (million cycles per second) clock, and transferring data at 1600MT/s (million transactions per second). Both are correct, even if that is confusing. |
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