What server should I connect to if I'm frustrated by not finding factors?

[Jwb52z]

Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman

You really are an idiot. You are truly clueless. I read the post indicated
by your URL quite carefully. It really made zero sense whatsoever. It
just bandied words about with no clear meaning. I do and will take the time
to answer questions. I will not take the time to answer questions that
are gibberish. I did not "give up on the question". The question itself
was meaningless. It also show a total lack of understanding how ECM
works in the first place. I will answer questions that

(1) Show the poster has made some effort to understand the problem
(2) Can not be readily answered by 10 minutes of work with Google

It is clear that the O.P. failed (1).

You have chosen the perfect pseudonym for yourself.

What does it say about those of us who did understand the poster in question when you, oh hard-working learned one of glorious self-importance, didn't? I hope you never teach children or people who are not already loaded with degrees. You wouldn't like it and would fail. You don't have the right temperament, if these posts are any indication, to deal with less than stellar minds.

[R.D. Silverman]

Originally Posted by Jwb52z

First of all, I'm not a child. Second of all, I'm not even a teenager. OK? I don't think everything should be "right now just because I want it," but there's a difference between, "I feel good because I helped" which is also valuable, and "I don't think it's valuable unless I had to kill myself to do it." You seem to think something has to be mind blearingly awful and hard to be happy about doing it. That's sad.

Read xyzzy's quote of Thomas Paine.

[Jwb52z]

Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman

Read xyzzy's quote of Thomas Paine.

I understand why you think as you do, Dr, but you have to, but, of course, you won't, understand that working yourself to death is not a good thing to everyone. You would have people be wanting to die for not being up to your academic standard because as you seem to believe, no one has a right to feel good about doing anything unless it was difficult. I am not in favor of never having to work or being lazy, but I still say it is ludicrous to feel bad or not feel good because you accomplished, or you would say merely completed, something that wasn't hard. To the rest of us normal people, accommplishment in itself, regardless of effort, is its own reward. Since you pointed me to a quote, here's one I like, "Pride goeth before the fall". M'kay?

[cheesehead]

Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman

I read the post indicated by your URL quite carefully. It really made zero sense whatsoever. It just bandied words about with no clear meaning.

Hmmm ... maybe I was wrong: you didn't give up -- you were merely incompetent there. My apologies.

I'm not an ECM expert, but even I could, within a few seconds of reading jasong's questions, (1) realize what he was asking about, (2) recognize a common erroneous ECM-novice assumption underlying his questions, and (3) outline how I could have answered. Then I saw that others had already answered adequately.

I do and will take the time to answer questions.

:-)

It also show a total lack of understanding how ECM works in the first place.

The questioner was trying to understand "how ECM works in the first place". That was the point -- understanding how ECM works. The poster did not totally understand how ECM works, but was making an honest effort to acquire that understanding by posting questions as well as he could from his novice viewpoint of partial understanding! (Contrary to your claim, the questions did demonstrate a partial understanding, not a total lack.)

I will answer questions that

(1) Show the poster has made some effort to understand the problem
(2) Can not be readily answered by 10 minutes of work with Google

It is clear that the O.P. failed (1).

Correction: The O.P. may have failed (2), but not (1).

You have chosen the perfect pseudonym for yourself.

A stinging ad hominem slap, but you've used it before. I'll survive.

(Take a look at the recent commemorative US quarter honoring Wisconsin. Around here, one smiles when one says "cheese".)

[VJS]

Well I currently have some of my CPU's dedicated to OPN the ones with large amounts of memory anyways. But most of my computer power is on SoB.

You realise that those projects also look for factors? SoB has a P-1 section which uses Prime95, we also use proth sieve. Granted SOB is not using ECM which is I think the factoring method you'd like to use to find a factor, correct?

My effort in OPN is directed towards understand ECM and SNFS and yes it's fun to find factors. (Useful or interesting factors) vs (easily found) are on two different sides of the fence with ECM you have to understand this.

I havn't used the server, but I'd imagine that your trying to test the 40+ digit level on composites (non-prime numbers) with 250 or greater digits. Chances are not great and individual curves take some time. However if you do find one using the server it's certainly something. Also the chances of finding a factor with OPN are significantly greater than finding a prime with SoB or mersenne.

If you simply want to find a factor I'm sure someone could post a smaller composite here for you to test. But regardless it will still take time.

Try something smaller off the small composites page...

http://oddperfect.org/composites.html

I'd suggest

C154 196 B1=11e6
2127 (P337-1)* 2676698084506621516487420852300164410053248582152174619643569800986881//
174236072670890529076055343512294222991036475553140273343474604222274169771155990537

Use b1=44M (45-digit factor) you might get lucky, chances there look pretty good.

[jasong]

Honestly, I didn't know I'd cause such an uproar.

If Mr. Silverman still looks at this thread, I'd like to point out that saving up the money to buy a computer can be an accomplishment itself, and if one wants to amuse themselves by maxing out their cpu with something, more power to them.

I remember once stating the opinion that I'd be happy if a friend ran the "Monkey Shakespeare Project" since that would mean he had the same hobby as me, DC.

Everyone is little in some way, but no one wants to feel little. Sometimes humility is the road to bigger things.

Oh, and if anybody thinks what I said is really wise, I give the credit to a certain Jew that was crucified at age 33. I'll get my props someday, even if that day isn't today.