Problems setting up a Pentium 4 - Help!

Andi47 · 2006-02-11, 11:56

I am setting up a new Pentium 4 PC, specifications as follows:

Code:

Pentium4 with 3,4GHz (not overclocked)

Mainboard: Asus P5WD2 Premium

Memory: 2 * 1Gb DDR2 Ram (MTD DDR2-533)

Graphics card: Asus Extreme N6600GT Silencer

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 200 Gb

DVD drive: Philips DVDR 1640

I bought CPU, mainboard and graphics card and want to use my HDD and DVD drive as above which are currently running in a Pentium III PC.

The problem:

The box won't boot....

Tried to boot from HDD (Windows XP professional) and from DVD.

When booting from HDD, just a split second after beginning to boot I get a bluescreen (unfortunately ist dissappears after 0,00000001 seconds, no chance to catch it hitting the Pause-Button). Starting Windoze in secure mode won't help.

When starting from CD, all drivers are loaded, then it says "starting windows" and crashes immeadeately - getting a black screen for about 2 secs and than a bluescreen reading like this:

Windows stopped for not to damage the system. If the message appears first time... bla bla...

If it continues popping up, remove all installed HDD controllers, check the system for viruses and reboot the system....

Power supply- and CPU-heatsink-fans are working well, the CPU runs at const 76°C.

P.S.: I tested several HDD and DVD settings (Master / slave; different connection to the Mainboard - nothing works...

Tested using only 1 GB RAM - won't help...

In one or two cases I got an error message reading about this:

Can't identify at least one mass storage device correctly...

------------------

HDD and DVD drive work properly in my old P3-System (I put them back to test and to have a PC for connection to internet)

I also tried booting Windoze ME from a Western Digital WD400AB - 00BVA0 HDD - this also gives a bloescreen which dissappears after 0,00000000001 secs - no chance to catch it hitting the pause-key.

What could be the problem? May I have missed some important configuration setting?

The peep when turning on the PC sounds like normal, I am able to enter BIOS settings in a normal way - no error messages until that.

Cruelty · 2006-02-11, 13:59

CPU runs at 76°C? In idle? IMO this is way too hot! Check if the heatsink is mounted properly - did you apply some thermal grease?

Andi47 · 2006-02-11, 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruelty

CPU runs at 76°C? In idle? IMO this is way too hot! Check if the heatsink is mounted properly - did you apply some thermal grease?

It came with some thermal grease applied on it.

xilman · 2006-02-11, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Schinde

I am setting up a new Pentium 4 PC, specifications as follows:

Code:

Pentium4 with 3,4GHz (not overclocked)

Mainboard: Asus P5WD2 Premium

Memory: 2 * 1Gb DDR2 Ram (MTD DDR2-533)

Graphics card: Asus Extreme N6600GT Silencer

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 200 Gb

DVD drive: Philips DVDR 1640

I bought CPU, mainboard and graphics card and want to use my HDD and DVD drive as above which are currently running in a Pentium III PC.

The problem:

The box won't boot....

Tried to boot from HDD (Windows XP professional) and from DVD.

When booting from HDD, just a split second after beginning to boot I get a bluescreen (unfortunately ist dissappears after 0,00000001 seconds, no chance to catch it hitting the Pause-Button). Starting Windoze in secure mode won't help.

When starting from CD, all drivers are loaded, then it says "starting windows" and crashes immeadeately - getting a black screen for about 2 secs and than a bluescreen reading like this:

Windows stopped for not to damage the system. If the message appears first time... bla bla...

If it continues popping up, remove all installed HDD controllers, check the system for viruses and reboot the system....

Power supply- and CPU-heatsink-fans are working well, the CPU runs at const 76°C.

P.S.: I tested several HDD and DVD settings (Master / slave; different connection to the Mainboard - nothing works...

Tested using only 1 GB RAM - won't help...

In one or two cases I got an error message reading about this:

Can't identify at least one mass storage device correctly...

------------------

HDD and DVD drive work properly in my old P3-System (I put them back to test and to have a PC for connection to internet)

I also tried booting Windoze ME from a Western Digital WD400AB - 00BVA0 HDD - this also gives a bloescreen which dissappears after 0,00000000001 secs - no chance to catch it hitting the pause-key.

What could be the problem? May I have missed some important configuration setting?

The peep when turning on the PC sounds like normal, I am able to enter BIOS settings in a normal way - no error messages until that.

You could try getting hold of a bootable Linux CD. Knoppix is the best-known name but there are many others. Sometimes you find them as magazine freebies.

Even though you may not want to run Linux on your machine, booting from such a CD may well give you sufficient diagnostics that you can see what is wrong with your machine.

Paul

paulunderwood · 2006-02-11, 19:32

Quote:

HDD and DVD drive work properly in my old P3-System (I put them back to test and to have a PC for connection to internet)

Can you do that with Windoze? Do you mean you took the disk out of a PIII with operating system on it and put it in the P4 and tried to boot it, but it didn't work? And then it worked when you put it back into the PIII?

Quote:

the CPU runs at const 76°C.

Ouch! You should try to get that down either by doing your best with a smear of thermal grease between the cpu and heatsink to ensure there is no air there and good thermal contact; Or think about getting a better cooling system. My 3.4GHz is water-cooled. Maybe "heat-pipe" technology would be sufficient for your needs.

moo · 2006-02-11, 20:05

is this a stock heatsink.
1. make sure you removed plastic that they use to protect thermal compound during shipping
2. check the fan rpm in then the bios
3. go spend a little money on a new heatsink for your proc you want something made entirely of copper it will run about 25 dollars but its money well spent
4. drop intel heatsink and crappy compound for entirely new heatsink and articsilver 5

georgekh · 2006-02-11, 22:39

76C!!!!!! OMG that thing is dead!!!!! if its running a constant 76 then say bye bye to that chip!!!!

outlnder · 2006-02-12, 03:19

Doesn't WinXP have that stupid hardware check thing??

Try installing from your WinXP CD and reinstall the operating system.

AFTER you fix that overheating problem. I'm guessing it is running at 76 degrees F.

moo · 2006-02-12, 05:59

at 3.2 you couldnt dream to have it running at 3.2 ghz on a stock cooler 3.2 ghz brings it to the "easy bake oven" range.

Andi47 · 2006-02-27, 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgekh

76C!!!!!! OMG that thing is dead!!!!! if its running a constant 76 then say bye bye to that chip!!!!

Fortunately it is still alive, and prime stable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulunderwood

Can you do that with Windoze? Do you mean you took the disk out of a PIII with operating system on it and put it in the P4 and tried to boot it, but it didn't work? And then it worked when you put it back into the PIII?

Ouch! You should try to get that down either by doing your best with a smear of thermal grease between the cpu and heatsink to ensure there is no air there and good thermal contact; Or think about getting a better cooling system. My 3.4GHz is water-cooled. Maybe "heat-pipe" technology would be sufficient for your needs.

Boxed Heatsink SUCKS (this one WAS attatched with some thermal grease.). Now I attatched a new heatsink with copper core and heat-pipe-technology and added two additional case-fans to blow fresh cool air inside the box. The CPU is now running at 36-40°C when idle (dependant on room temperature which went up to 26°C when the sun was shining into my large southside window yesterday), and is now happily crunching mersennes (GIMPS) at 52-55°C (fluctuating because this is near the treshold where the CPU-fan increases / decreases its speed).

P.S.: I had to format my HDD to get it running on my new box and got some more bluescreens because my Mainboard doesn't want to have ATAPI CDROM-Drives on IDE-1 and IDE-2-ports. But this problem is now solved. (I don't remember what the blue colored port on the right in the picture is named, but it is able to read my DVD-ROM drive properly)

drake2 · 2006-02-28, 08:20

The P5WD2-E Premium has very nice specifications, but I recently bought the Gigabyte GA-G1975X instead solely because there were way too many people complaining about the Marvell controller and I happened to need to deal with a lot of IDE drives in addition to the main SATA drive. Not really surprised you had similar problems.

The Gigabyte board seems to handle the IDE channels very well, at least once you figure out how the BIOS should be set to pick up all the drives.

2006-02-11, 11:56	#1
Andi47 Oct 2004 Austria 2×17×73 Posts	Problems setting up a Pentium 4 - Help! I am setting up a new Pentium 4 PC, specifications as follows: Code: Pentium4 with 3,4GHz (not overclocked) Mainboard: Asus P5WD2 Premium Memory: 2 * 1Gb DDR2 Ram (MTD DDR2-533) Graphics card: Asus Extreme N6600GT Silencer HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 200 Gb DVD drive: Philips DVDR 1640 I bought CPU, mainboard and graphics card and want to use my HDD and DVD drive as above which are currently running in a Pentium III PC. The problem: The box won't boot.... Tried to boot from HDD (Windows XP professional) and from DVD. When booting from HDD, just a split second after beginning to boot I get a bluescreen (unfortunately ist dissappears after 0,00000001 seconds, no chance to catch it hitting the Pause-Button). Starting Windoze in secure mode won't help. When starting from CD, all drivers are loaded, then it says "starting windows" and crashes immeadeately - getting a black screen for about 2 secs and than a bluescreen reading like this: Windows stopped for not to damage the system. If the message appears first time... bla bla... If it continues popping up, remove all installed HDD controllers, check the system for viruses and reboot the system.... Power supply- and CPU-heatsink-fans are working well, the CPU runs at const 76°C. P.S.: I tested several HDD and DVD settings (Master / slave; different connection to the Mainboard - nothing works... Tested using only 1 GB RAM - won't help... In one or two cases I got an error message reading about this: Can't identify at least one mass storage device correctly... ------------------ HDD and DVD drive work properly in my old P3-System (I put them back to test and to have a PC for connection to internet) I also tried booting Windoze ME from a Western Digital WD400AB - 00BVA0 HDD - this also gives a bloescreen which dissappears after 0,00000000001 secs - no chance to catch it hitting the pause-key. What could be the problem? May I have missed some important configuration setting? The peep when turning on the PC sounds like normal, I am able to enter BIOS settings in a normal way - no error messages until that.

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2006-02-11, 13:59	#2
Cruelty May 2005 2³×7×29 Posts	CPU runs at 76°C? In idle? IMO this is way too hot! Check if the heatsink is mounted properly - did you apply some thermal grease?

2006-02-11, 20:05	#6
moo Jul 2004 Nowhere 1100101001₂ Posts	is this a stock heatsink. 1. make sure you removed plastic that they use to protect thermal compound during shipping 2. check the fan rpm in then the bios 3. go spend a little money on a new heatsink for your proc you want something made entirely of copper it will run about 25 dollars but its money well spent 4. drop intel heatsink and crappy compound for entirely new heatsink and articsilver 5

2006-02-11, 22:39	#7
georgekh Oct 2004 2×3³ Posts	76C!!!!!! OMG that thing is dead!!!!! if its running a constant 76 then say bye bye to that chip!!!!

2006-02-12, 03:19	#8
outlnder Aug 2002 2·3·53 Posts	Doesn't WinXP have that stupid hardware check thing?? Try installing from your WinXP CD and reinstall the operating system. AFTER you fix that overheating problem. I'm guessing it is running at 76 degrees F.

2006-02-12, 05:59	#9
moo Jul 2004 Nowhere 809₁₀ Posts	at 3.2 you couldnt dream to have it running at 3.2 ghz on a stock cooler 3.2 ghz brings it to the "easy bake oven" range.

2006-02-28, 08:20	#11
drake2 Aug 2005 10₁₆ Posts	The P5WD2-E Premium has very nice specifications, but I recently bought the Gigabyte GA-G1975X instead solely because there were way too many people complaining about the Marvell controller and I happened to need to deal with a lot of IDE drives in addition to the main SATA drive. Not really surprised you had similar problems. The Gigabyte board seems to handle the IDE channels very well, at least once you figure out how the BIOS should be set to pick up all the drives.