Good Linux distro for a beginner - Page 2

Xyzzy · 2004-06-24, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by optim

I fell in love with Slackware from the first moment I saw it, but unfortunately the last version (9.1) is a bit outdated... :-(

www.slackware.com

Slack 10 was released yesterday...

optim · 2004-06-25, 03:30

wow, it released the same day I wrote the message. Thanks for informing me! I will order it.

But it still uses kernel 2.4... :/

Pablo the Duck · 2004-06-25, 05:20

Even a klutz like me can build a 2.6 kernel on Slack. Unfortunately Mprime seems to run slower on 2.6 than it does on 2.4.

(Hey, maybe Pat V. knew - that's why he stuck with 2.4 for Slack 10.)

optim · 2004-06-25, 06:53

Yes I know I can install 2.6 if I want to, but I would prefer not to take this additional administrative step. I know 2.4 uses less memory than 2.6, but I didn't know it was faster for mprime. Why is that?

PS> I ordered 10.0, and I am still waiting for my slackware polo!

PS2> Azureus died unexpectedly after an online update. Any good (that means: stable

) bittorrent client arround? I want to become a seed...

geoff · 2004-06-25, 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by optim

Yes I know I can install 2.6 if I want to, but I would prefer not to take this additional administrative step. I know 2.4 uses less memory than 2.6, but I didn't know it was faster for mprime. Why is that?

I think the speed difference is due to the new O(1) scheduler in 2.6. If you are only running a single process (a dedicated gimps machine) then the 2.4 scheduler is faster, but if you have many processes running then the 2.6 scheduler wins.

geoff · 2004-06-27, 05:41

Also, as far as the memory use of 2.6 vs 2.4, I think there are two main reasons why 2.6 can use more: One is that 2.6 by default includes both the old and new I/O schedulers and you can choose which one to use with a boot option. The other is that 2.6 knows about more hardware devices and so has a much larger device name database.

If you compile 2.6 with only one I/O scheduler, and either remove the device name database or compile without hotplugging support (which then allows the device name database to be unloaded after boot) then I think you will find that 2.6 actually uses less memory than 2.4. (Although the vmlinuz file will still be larger).

equn · 2004-08-30, 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomRuley

I'm probably going to accidentally start a fight among Linux users here

, but I was wanting to put Linux on one or more of my computers. However, I am a little confused as to which distribution is right for me. Based on what I have read, my current top choices are recent versions of RedHat, Mandrake, or SuSE. Keep in mind, I have been a DOS/Windows user for as long as they have been around (yes, I still remember how to get around in DOS). I am looking for something that is relatively simple, reliable, secure and overall hassle-free. Any help would be appreciated.

well, in my site i got my linux screenshots, there are in chinese but you can just simply see which distribution interests you.

http://www.equn.com/linux/

2004-06-25, 03:30	#13
optim Nov 2003 European Union 104₁₀ Posts	Slackware 10 wow, it released the same day I wrote the message. Thanks for informing me! I will order it. But it still uses kernel 2.4... :/ Last fiddled with by optim on 2004-06-25 at 03:32

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2004-06-25, 05:20	#14
Pablo the Duck Dec 2003 Team China 2×3³ Posts	Even a klutz like me can build a 2.6 kernel on Slack. Unfortunately Mprime seems to run slower on 2.6 than it does on 2.4. (Hey, maybe Pat V. knew - that's why he stuck with 2.4 for Slack 10.)

2004-06-25, 06:53	#15
optim Nov 2003 European Union 2³×13 Posts	Yes I know I can install 2.6 if I want to, but I would prefer not to take this additional administrative step. I know 2.4 uses less memory than 2.6, but I didn't know it was faster for mprime. Why is that? PS> I ordered 10.0, and I am still waiting for my slackware polo! PS2> Azureus died unexpectedly after an online update. Any good (that means: stable ) bittorrent client arround? I want to become a seed...

2004-06-27, 05:41	#17
geoff Mar 2003 New Zealand 10010000101₂ Posts	Also, as far as the memory use of 2.6 vs 2.4, I think there are two main reasons why 2.6 can use more: One is that 2.6 by default includes both the old and new I/O schedulers and you can choose which one to use with a boot option. The other is that 2.6 knows about more hardware devices and so has a much larger device name database. If you compile 2.6 with only one I/O scheduler, and either remove the device name database or compile without hotplugging support (which then allows the device name database to be unloaded after boot) then I think you will find that 2.6 actually uses less memory than 2.4. (Although the vmlinuz file will still be larger).