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Old 2020-03-11, 12:45   #111
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From the "Not just a bad idea -- it's the law" department...

Hearing to be held after county ditched new voting machines
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ATLANTA (AP) — Georgia's state election board plans to hold an emergency hearing Wednesday to discuss whether election officials in one county violated state law or election rules when they decided not to use the state’s new voting machines for the presidential primary.

The Athens-Clarke County Board of Elections voted 3-2 last week to sideline the new machines in favor of hand-marked paper ballots. Board Chairman Jesse Evans said the board found it "impracticable" when using the new machines to protect ballot secrecy and allow sufficient monitoring to prevent tampering as required by state law.
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Georgia law requires all of the state's 159 counties to use the new voting system. But it also allows county election officials to use paper ballots if using the electronic machines becomes "impossible or impracticable."
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Of course, those are the only alternatives.

It would be anathema -- anathema! -- that voters actually decided for themselves to choose Joe Biden over Bernie Sanders.
It's certainly possible - I just find it interesting how many primary voters *suddenly* decided to support Joe after his dismal showing in the first few states. Sure, super Tuesday is red-state heavy and conservative-D voters will tend to favor the centrist, establishment snake oil peddlers - but you must admit the sudden overwhelming "Joe's our man" wave was, to say the least, unexpected even by most of the establishment shill-pundits in the MSM.

Anyhow, whoever wins in November, we can kiss any chance of real change and some progressive policies which provide material benefits to the bottom 90% goodbye.
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It's certainly possible - I just find it interesting how many primary voters *suddenly* decided to support Joe after his dismal showing in the first few states.
Because Iowa and New Hamster are soooo very cosmopolitan and have a rich history of minority involvement in politics.
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Old 2020-03-11, 22:02   #114
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Some concrete examples of DNC-orchestrated suppression of "problematic" classes of primary voters:

o Bernie lost 553,000 Votes to California Dem Party Rules | Greg Palast
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The rules are as arcane as, say, a Jim Crow literacy test. Suffice to say that the ingenious Democrat Establisment has devised a complex scheme to prevent Independents from voting on Presidential ballots. “What’s the impact of this labyrinthine ballot dance? A lot, according to the statistician Paul Mitchell, vice president of Political Data Inc, a private firm employed by both the Republican and Democratic parties. Mitchell recently completed a poll of 700 independent voters and found that while 61% wanted to vote in the Democratic primary, nearly half (45%) were clueless about how to get a Democratic ballot. Another third of NPP voters believed that they could not exchange their no-candidate ballots — though the law says they may… Mitchell’s pollsters also asked 300 NPP voters whom they’d vote for if they had obtained the correct ballot. About 26% preferred Sanders, which translates to 553,000 potential lost votes, by Mitchell’s estimates. Mike Bloomberg, meanwhile, could come up 383,000 votes short.
o And a tweet from a 2016 third-party candidate:
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More #VoterSuppression, this time in #MichiganPrimary: student voters are being forced to wait an AVERAGE of 3 HOURS. Suppressing the youth vote is one of the establishment's favorite tricks. In state after state, we've seen them fix this election right before our eyes. #DemExit https://t.co/b2AmyqQ0bk

— Dr. Jill Stein🌻 (@DrJillStein) March 11, 2020
Rigging U.S. elections - but I thought only Deplorable RussiaRussiaRussians did that.

But all that aside, Bernie did himself no favors - except for some late-breaking weak tea about Social Security, he failed to hammer home the myriad of very good reasons why anyone desiring change for the better does not want Joe Biden anywhere near the Oval Office. His vehement crtitiques were all along the lines of “we must get rid of Trump” – well, absent any real (and really well-deserved) hard, consistent criticism of his BFF Joe Biden that is tantamount to saying “anyone would be be better than Trump … including Joe Biden.”

He professes to believe so strongly in the need for progressive ‘revolutionary’ change, but he’s unwilling to break any colleagues’ precious rice bowls to help bring it about. Does anyone think Trump could’ve smashed a similarly-hostile-to-him GOP corruptocracy in 2016 with “look, Jeb! Bush is a friend of mine…” and effectively going into the fight with one hand tied – by himself – behind his back? So disappointing – a non sequitur “polite revolution”.
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It would be anathema -- anathema! -- that voters actually decided for themselves to choose Joe Biden over Bernie Sanders.

Why, it simply isn't possible that large numbers of Democratic primary voters could find Sanders' policy proposals alarming. Or that they might be looking forward to the general election, and deciding that Joe Biden stands a better chance of beating Il Duce. Only raving lunatics could think such a thing!
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It's certainly possible - I just find it interesting how many primary voters *suddenly* decided to support Joe after his dismal showing in the first few states.
On March 11, 2020, Bernie Sanders said (my emphasis):
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While our campaign has won the ideological debate, we are losing the debate over electability. I cannot tell you how many people our campaign has spoke to and said, and I quote, 'I like what your campaign stands for, I agree with what your campaign stands for, but I'm going to vote for Joe Biden because I think Joe is the best candidate to defeat Donald Trump.' We have heard that statement all over this country. Needless to say, I strongly disagree with that assertion, but that is what millions of Democrats and independents today believe.

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Sanders-Biden Debate Is Bernie's Last Chance | Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone

Not holding my breath for a change in tactics by the leader of the Polite Revolution™.

Was amused to see the following headline in the "Trending" box beneath the article: Mexico Considers Border Restrictions as U.S. COVID-19 Cases Rise. LOL, Trump may get them to pay for that wall after all, just to keep the gringos out: ¡La sola 'Corona' que nos quieren en Mexico es la cerveza!
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Sanders-Biden Debate Is Bernie's Last Chance | Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone

Not holding my breath for a change in tactics by the leader of the Polite Revolution™.

Was amused to see the following headline in the "Trending" box beneath the article: Mexico Considers Border Restrictions as U.S. COVID-19 Cases Rise. LOL, Trump may get them to pay for that wall after all, just to keep the gringos out: ¡La sola 'Corona' que nos quieren en Mexico es la cerveza!
Very sad LOL. I have not looked up the debate, as yet. I was at work while it was happening.
Any impressions?
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¡La sola 'Corona' que nos quieren en Mexico es la cerveza!
Some might dispute the assertion that Corona is beer.

You don't have to be an expert to know that light kills beer -- turns it "skunky." That's why most bottled beer is put in brown or green bottles.

The two exceptions that come immediately to mind are Miller High Life and Corona. They are sold in clear glass bottles.

Corona implicitly acknowledges its bottled beer is skunky, by constantly sledgehammering the message that you should serve it with a wedge of lime. A bit of citrus, you see, helps mask the skunkiness of skunky beer.
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Some might dispute the assertion that Corona is beer.

You don't have to be an expert to know that light kills beer -- turns it "skunky." That's why most bottled beer is put in brown or green bottles.

The two exceptions that come immediately to mind are Miller High Life and Corona. They are sold in clear glass bottles.

Corona implicitly acknowledges its bottled beer is skunky, by constantly sledgehammering the message that you should serve it with a wedge of lime. A bit of citrus, you see, helps mask the skunkiness of skunky beer.

Some might dispute that you have ever tried a Corona ;-)


In my opinion it is not as acerbic as typical german beers, but quite tasty and very apt for warm countries, even better then if pretty cool.



In particular, I'ld say that it has nothing "skunky". Maybe it does not need green or brown bottles because it contains very little amounts of yeast. (or whatever may make some beers "skunky", if that's not a myth at all)
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Some might dispute the assertion that Corona is beer.
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Some might dispute that you have ever tried a Corona ;-)
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DE GVSTIBVS ET COLORIBVS NON DISPVTANDVM

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I remembered it as "DE GVSTIBVS COLORIBVSQVE NON DISPVTANDVM" but seem to be wrong according to the web :-(
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Re. clear bottles, I don't think Corona is intended for any kind of long-term storage. "Skunky" may be result of UV exposure while-in-bottle, but less disputable is that it fits the pejorative "pisswater lager", which makes it the ideal hot-weather beer for me - only time I ever touch the stuff.

@kladner: Not nearly enough of a masochist to watch any of the Dem debates, but my impression from that self-flagellating fraction of the NC commentariat which managed to watch some or all of last night D-bate was that lyin' Joe Biden "won" by virtue of managing to get through it without any obvious bouts of drooling-and-slurring-words dementia, helped by the MSM-drawn moderators not asking him any actual tough questions about his long and dismal record, of course. November election - in whatever form it gets held, what with sports leagues holding "games without audiences" maybe we'll get treated to a "an election without voters" - looking like a Pick Your Poison deal, unless something dramatic happens between now and then to take one or both (likely) major-party nominees out of the race. The way Covid-19 and the likely economic impacts are mushrooming day to day, the odds of that happening are actually not small anymore. No small number of NCers are predicting a surprise nominee bait and switch on the part of Team D, dire warnings along the lines of "at the convention, after the shock of the Joe-Biden-is-unable-to-accept-the-nomination announcement has barely begin to sink in, who should step out from behind the curtain, tanned rested and ready, and resplendent in her royal-purple pantsuit..."
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