Stormy weather - Page 2

Nick · 2021-02-06, 16:56

Amsterdam is restricting boats on some of its famous canals in order to increase the chance of ice forming so that people can skate there.

Uncwilly · 2021-02-06, 16:57

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Originally Posted by Nick

We have a code red weather alarm in the Netherlands for blizzard conditions tomorrow.

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Just across the North Sea from you we have an amber warning.

Should not severe winter weather have colours like deep blue, blue, and purple? Red should be for hot, just like it it used to show temps on the maps normally.

Till · 2021-02-06, 17:07

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Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus

Glaze ice is very bad. The worst ice storm I remember hearing about was the January 1998 storm in the northeastern US and Canada. The National Weather Service has a 10-year anniversary page here.

Quite impressive ;-)

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I've experienced a few ice storms, but much smaller accumulations - maybe a quarter-inch (around 6 cm).

You meant 6 mm, right?

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Ahh, clicked on the wide-view near the violet, and got the larger scale map of Germany. The "black ice" warning is in the yellow zone E and W of Frankfurt. Squiggles and exclamation points.

I expect that "black ice" zone to move northwards. Very slowly. I hope it does not get where I live.

kriesel · 2021-02-06, 17:44

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Originally Posted by Dr Sardonicus

Glaze ice is very bad.

Yes. Especially for areas dependent on overhead utility wiring (electrical power, communications), or transportation passing under or near trees.
Where I lived in Wisconsin during this was without electricity for a week (and a neighbor's siding had arc marks where the block's transformer input lines had sparked on their way from the pole to the ground). The live 4KV lines laid on the ground for a week until someone of the utility repair crews from 7 states that responded could get around to dealing with it. Other parts of the state were without functioning grid delivered power for nearly a month. Sidewalks and streets were partly blocked by broken off tree limbs or whole trees the evening it hit. Generators and chain saws and their owners were popular. Lack of power meant lack of heat, cooling, lighting, and water.

Dr Sardonicus · 2021-02-06, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Till

You meant 6 mm, right?

Right. (Geez, some days it doesn't pay to get up...)

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I expect that "black ice" zone to move northwards. Very slowly. I hope it does not get where I live.

Knock on wood! [taps knuckles on side of head]

storm5510 · 2021-02-06, 19:43

When people in my neck of the woods talk about winter weather events, they always gravitate to The Great Blizzard of 1978. I experienced it myself. The lowest barometer reading I remember was 28.4 in-hg. 961 millibars, or there about. This was when the storm center was over Northern Ohio. The wind was incredible. I lived in a mobile home. That thing rocked and rolled all night as the storm passed through. It was amazing that many people did not lose the power. I didn't lose mine. There are lots of photos in the link above.

xilman · 2021-02-06, 19:59

I remember the winter of 1963, even though I was only very young at the time. I still carry its marks on my toes which became far too cold far too often. It was the coldest winter in the UK for over 200 years. My parents remembered its predecessor in 1947.

More at https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather...severe-winters

More recently in 1982 I had to dig my motorbike out of a snowdrift in a temperature of -22C. To my surprise it started at the first touch of the button, albeit making a strange chugging noise. Riding into the lab was interesting, though safe enough because hardly anyone else was on the snow-covered roads.

Till · 2021-02-06, 20:55

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Originally Posted by storm5510

When people in my neck of the woods talk about winter weather events, they always gravitate to The Great Blizzard of 1978. I experienced it myself. The lowest barometer reading I remember was 28.4 in-hg. 961 millibars, or there about. This was when the storm center was over Northern Ohio. The wind was incredible. I lived in a mobile home. That thing rocked and rolled all night as the storm passed through. It was amazing that many people did not lose the power. I didn't lose mine. There are lots of photos in the link above.

Interestingly, in northern Germany, 1978 featured the hardest winter storm remembered since then, too. See e.g. (german source)

https://www.wetteronline.de/wetter-s...n=Winter197879

The link says "one-in-a-hundred-years winter". I remember loads of snow, and a big tree having fallen near to our house after my family and me returned from an excursion.

Dr Sardonicus · 2021-02-07, 01:43

The winter of 1978-79 was bad in the Chicago area too. I was visiting my folks there during winter break. There were two major snowfalls, one of 20" (50.8 cm) and one of 16" (40.64 cm) and some smaller ones. When I left to start classes, the fences around the back yards were completely buried, and they were 4 feet (1.2 m) high. It also stayed below freezing continuously for around 30 days. It was cold enough for long enough that the "frost line" reached five feet (1.5 m) below ground, which was significant, because that's how deep water service lines are buried in that area. A lot of people had to hire backhoe operators to dig down to their service lines so they could be thawed out. People were talking about a "new ice age."

The utter failure of Chicago's snow removal operations that winter resulted in the incumbent Mayor getting turfed out in the April 1979 primary, an occurrence that would have been inconceivable a few years previously.

Nick · 2021-02-07, 10:07

Right now, it's snowing horizontally.
There is less snow than we had feared, but the strong freezing wind is causing problems.

xilman · 2021-02-07, 11:44

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Right now, it's snowing horizontally.
There is less snow than we had feared, but the strong freezing wind is causing problems.

Just started here. Drifting down very slowly. Would be horizontal but for all the bamboos and yew trees acting as windbreaks at low level.

The bamboos are performing Mexican waves in the strong northerly wind.

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2021-02-06, 16:56	#12
Nick Dec 2012 The Netherlands 2·23·37 Posts	Amsterdam is restricting boats on some of its famous canals in order to increase the chance of ice forming so that people can skate there.

2021-02-06, 19:43	#17
storm5510 Random Account Aug 2009 3641₈ Posts	When people in my neck of the woods talk about winter weather events, they always gravitate to The Great Blizzard of 1978. I experienced it myself. The lowest barometer reading I remember was 28.4 in-hg. 961 millibars, or there about. This was when the storm center was over Northern Ohio. The wind was incredible. I lived in a mobile home. That thing rocked and rolled all night as the storm passed through. It was amazing that many people did not lose the power. I didn't lose mine. There are lots of photos in the link above.

2021-02-06, 19:59	#18
xilman Bamboozled! "𒉺𒌌𒇷𒆷𒀭" May 2003 Down not across 2A01₁₆ Posts	I remember the winter of 1963, even though I was only very young at the time. I still carry its marks on my toes which became far too cold far too often. It was the coldest winter in the UK for over 200 years. My parents remembered its predecessor in 1947. More at https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather...severe-winters More recently in 1982 I had to dig my motorbike out of a snowdrift in a temperature of -22C. To my surprise it started at the first touch of the button, albeit making a strange chugging noise. Riding into the lab was interesting, though safe enough because hardly anyone else was on the snow-covered roads.

2021-02-07, 01:43	#20
Dr Sardonicus Feb 2017 Nowhere 4,643 Posts	The winter of 1978-79 was bad in the Chicago area too. I was visiting my folks there during winter break. There were two major snowfalls, one of 20" (50.8 cm) and one of 16" (40.64 cm) and some smaller ones. When I left to start classes, the fences around the back yards were completely buried, and they were 4 feet (1.2 m) high. It also stayed below freezing continuously for around 30 days. It was cold enough for long enough that the "frost line" reached five feet (1.5 m) below ground, which was significant, because that's how deep water service lines are buried in that area. A lot of people had to hire backhoe operators to dig down to their service lines so they could be thawed out. People were talking about a "new ice age." The utter failure of Chicago's snow removal operations that winter resulted in the incumbent Mayor getting turfed out in the April 1979 primary, an occurrence that would have been inconceivable a few years previously.

2021-02-07, 10:07	#21
Nick Dec 2012 The Netherlands 2×23×37 Posts	Right now, it's snowing horizontally. There is less snow than we had feared, but the strong freezing wind is causing problems.