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Old 2019-06-20, 00:54   #441
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Given the high duplicate rate,
I wouldn't think a GNFS job would have a high duplicate rate but I really don't know. I'm just starting to dabble with 32-bit jobs.
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Old 2019-06-20, 14:17   #442
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I wouldn't think a GNFS job would have a high duplicate rate but I really don't know. I'm just starting to dabble with 32-bit jobs.
I can't really comment on the theory here. But whether or not there should be a lot of duplicates, there unquestionably are a lot of duplicates.

I have noticed in the past that the relations produced by NFS@Home sieving seem to have way more bad lines and duplicates than I get when I do jobs myself. Perhaps there are some benign explanations for this, but I have heard it suggested that it may be caused by various forms of "cheating" when people returns relations to the server.

In any case, when I submit jobs I tend to suggest special-q ranges that produce way more relations than I would try for if I were doing the sieving myself, as a way of getting around this problem.
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Old 2019-06-20, 23:48   #443
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I can't really comment on the theory here. But whether or not there should be a lot of duplicates, there unquestionably are a lot of duplicates.

I have noticed in the past that the relations produced by NFS@Home sieving seem to have way more bad lines and duplicates than I get when I do jobs myself. Perhaps there are some benign explanations for this, but I have heard it suggested that it may be caused by various forms of "cheating" when people returns relations to the server.

In any case, when I submit jobs I tend to suggest special-q ranges that produce way more relations than I would try for if I were doing the sieving myself, as a way of getting around this problem.
Ah, yes, I am starting to notice that. The bigger the job the more garbage it collects. The longer it is in the queue the more likelihood of mistreatment.

31-bit jobs need more than the expected.

BTW, my 3372531985651_19m1 job built a matrix at TD=132 and should complete on or about Friday, 5 July if all goes well.
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Old 2019-06-22, 00:26   #444
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Taking C180_159978_10330.
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Old 2019-06-22, 02:47   #445
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Reserving C182_M17_k98
Code:
p56 factor: 76895458070627070525007761656219867594868038627047528439
p126 factor: 194670777427975176331993953351170360734240081917106572346085377818707289417171889284456923645153422980830974783021883407250207
Approximately 25.7 hours on 2 threads Core i3-2310M with 4 GB memory for a 3.45M matrix at TD = 100.

Full log attached and redacted log (due to numerous relation errors from some cheater) at https://pastebin.com/xfaHqcLe

Factors added to FDB.
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Old 2019-06-23, 07:07   #446
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38160408950501_17m1 needs more sieving. Over 35% of the relations are duplicates, and msieve doesn't get very far in filtering before it complains. I'd probably add another 40M.

Done.

Last fiddled with by swellman on 2019-06-23 at 12:59
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Old 2019-06-23, 10:27   #447
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C166_M19_k74 is complete:


Code:
p54 factor: 387184084614656438987154506853071394996491008532723507
p112 factor: 7858374697721506817025694875934862172411858587345378675715373341089477652165751964689422482397011529641725140733
TD = 122 built a 4.56 M matrix (not TD 125) which took 8h 37m to solve. Log posted at https://pastebin.com/jN9TzLfp and https://github.com/Dylan1496/nfs-at-...66_M19_k74.log.
Reserving 5p3_1425M for post processing.
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Old 2019-06-25, 03:54   #451
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p54 factor: 308312007300944575027791293633536467795756007147545161
p110 factor: 36997115764656058946624603757199691170627538192760153675664831011355819056889320458078857874833318561030674629
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