Poster for M50? - Page 3

jbpace · 2018-01-11, 03:43

Any chance they're planning a large, easily read, title at the top? At this size they'll either be stored or mounted on long walls, and a title would be useful to draw people over. What title - good question...

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Originally Posted by Uncwilly

Currently 1.5 point font is being recommended. The banner would be 120" x 50" at that scale.

Just printed a page at 1.5 Calibri font and it's right at the edge of readable (for my eyes). Do you happen to know what font they'd recommend?

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Originally Posted by Uncwilly

Still talking about material, with regard to price.

I'd be interested to know the material/price options. My heart wants it to be sturdy, my wallet wants it to be inexpensive

Uncwilly · 2018-01-11, 06:39

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Originally Posted by jbpace

Any chance they're planning a large, easily read, title at the top? At this size they'll either be stored or mounted on long walls, and a title would be useful to draw people over. What title - good question...

Attached is an image similar to what I sent the printer, suggesting that they lay
2^77232917-1 is Prime!
behind the text of the number.

As far as font and color (including possibly coloured paper), I am asking for their opinion. They make their living printing.

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I'd be interested to know the material/price options. My heart wants it to be sturdy, my wallet wants it to be inexpensive

They asked about options. I gave some guidance and examples. If needed I can visit their shop.

I think that you of all people need not worry about the cost. (You might get one free from a benefactor.)

Once this is all done, I can look into getting others made for different primes. I am also asking about quantity discount.

Pi Rho · 2018-01-11, 14:11

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Originally Posted by Uncwilly

If anyone has an old poster of one of the primes, would you kindly take a photo and post it here? I would like to share it with my printer. Currently 1.5 point font is being recommended. The banner would be 120" x 50" at that scale.
At 1 point it would be 120" x 24", but "is a bit rough and has to be looked at with a dot glass around 10x mag".
Still talking about material, with regard to price.

Here is a poster of M40 - 6.3 MM digits. Dimensions are roughly 27" x 37". I'm not sure on the font - arial narrow perhaps? I can make out the numbers without magnification, but it is difficult.

Congrats, Jon, on the find!

jbpace · 2018-01-11, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Uncwilly

Attached is an image similar to what I sent the printer, suggesting that they lay
2^77232917-1 is Prime!
behind the text of the number.

That's beautiful - far better than a title at the top!

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Originally Posted by Uncwilly

I think that you of all people need not worry about the cost. (You might get one free from a benefactor.)

While I appreciate such a generous offer, I don't deserve special credit. I received "et al." credit in M41 through M49, I just happen to have been assigned the test that moved my name to the front of the credits for M50. It's almost certain I'll be back to my normal home when M51 is found (only Curtis Cooper gets so lucky

).

Plus, I'm going to need to order several of these! It's amazing how many have asked for signed copies.

S485122 · 2018-01-11, 19:03

The recent suggestions have been made already during the discussion about M44

Jacob

tha · 2018-01-11, 19:35

Why not google: "custom wallpaper" print ?

(Consult with your wife before ordering.)

ewmayer · 2018-01-12, 00:53

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Originally Posted by Uncwilly

Attached is an image similar to what I sent the printer, suggesting that they lay
2^77232917-1 is Prime!
behind the text of the number.
[snip]
As far as font and color (including possibly coloured paper), I am asking for their opinion. They make their living printing.They asked about options. I gave some guidance and examples. If needed I can visit their shop.

I think that you of all people need not worry about the cost. (You might get one free from a benefactor.)

Once this is all done, I can look into getting others made for different primes. I am also asking about quantity discount.

Nice! The background "2^77232917-1 is Prime!" demonstrates one obvious advantage of scroll form over multi-panel.

Re. for different primes - same font, and adjusting scroll length/area to suit, or dfferent fonts depending on #digits?

jbpace · 2018-01-17, 17:47

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Originally Posted by Uncwilly

Once this is all done, I can look into getting others made for different primes. I am also asking about quantity discount.

Any luck confirming banner materials & pricing (M_{77 232 917} specifically)? I'm chomping at the bit to order several...

Uncwilly · 2018-01-17, 19:25

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Originally Posted by jbpace

Any luck confirming banner materials & pricing (M_{77 232 917} specifically)? I'm chomping at the bit to order several...

I will send a reminder email. They are "extended family". The nexus that joins us recently added a new unit. This has had an effect of their life.

GP2 · 2018-01-17, 21:29

I hate to be a curmudgeon, but... the decimal digits of M50 are supremely uninteresting.

The fundamental nature of M50 is, it's umpty-million ones, in base two.

I mean, consider a googol (10¹⁰⁰). In decimal digits, it's just one followed by a bunch of zeros. However, if you converted it to a non-decimal base like octal or hexadecimal, it would turn into a bunch of randomly-distributed and mostly non-zero digits.

Now, would you really print out all those fascinating octal digits and frame them on your wall? Not really, because that set of digits is just an artifact of choosing a number base that's really unsuited to representing the nature of that specific number.

kruoli · 2018-01-18, 12:32

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Originally Posted by GP2

Now, would you really print out all those fascinating octal digits and frame them on your wall? Not really, because that set of digits is just an artifact of choosing a number base that's really unsuited to representing the nature of that specific number.

I guess that's not really the point about printing that out. Decimal base is our daily usage, so everyone (even non scientific people) has a rough idea of how large a number is up to a certain extend. That would not be the case for other bases.

Printing out the one largest prime proven to this date is more about showing the enormous size of the decimal expansion. As a child, I liked to investigate a poster with a couple of thousands (or maybe even a magnitude more, I don't remember) digits of π for hours. Of course, there was nothing to find except remarkable digit combinations as they could be found in lots of other huge numbers with something like evenly distributed digits (I'm not sure about the nomenclature).

Since Jonathan is the discoverer, I really understand his urge to analogify this number somehow. Digital acquisitions are not that handy. Printing it out in binary would be simply boring, so having a base $b\ \neq\ 2^n,\ n \in \mathbb{N}$ would add at least add some kind of noise to the image (maybe a bit like Lorem Ipsum for text editors). Having the exponent in the background of the poster in a huge font will take care of a suitable representation of this prime. Even more suitable than a binary expansion in my opinion.

2018-01-11, 19:03	#27
S485122 Sep 2006 Brussels, Belgium 2·3·281 Posts	The recent suggestions have been made already during the discussion about M44 Jacob Last fiddled with by S485122 on 2018-01-11 at 19:04 Reason: trumpism : look at post 45 :-)

2018-01-11, 19:35	#28
tha Dec 2002 2·11·37 Posts	Why not google: "custom wallpaper" print ? (Consult with your wife before ordering.) Last fiddled with by tha on 2018-01-11 at 19:36

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GP2 Sep 2003 5×11×47 Posts	I hate to be a curmudgeon, but... the decimal digits of M50 are supremely uninteresting. The fundamental nature of M50 is, it's umpty-million ones, in base two. I mean, consider a googol (10¹⁰⁰). In decimal digits, it's just one followed by a bunch of zeros. However, if you converted it to a non-decimal base like octal or hexadecimal, it would turn into a bunch of randomly-distributed and mostly non-zero digits. Now, would you really print out all those fascinating octal digits and frame them on your wall? Not really, because that set of digits is just an artifact of choosing a number base that's really unsuited to representing the nature of that specific number.