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Old 2017-05-27, 22:07   #12
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There are free programs for this. Also, exfat is recognized by both OS (winxp needs a update for it), and have a bigger size limit.
Please forgive me for this, but I don't know of a file system known as exfat.

I spend a lot of my time telling my clients that their consultants don't know what they are talking about. It is rather tiring.
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Old 2017-05-27, 22:26   #13
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Old 2017-05-27, 22:35   #14
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Our first computer was a 486DX 33 with 8 megs of RAM, up from the default 4 megs at my insistence. It had a 120 MB drive. It came with DOS 5 and Windows 3.1, which was brand new, then.

Our second machine had 256 MB of RAM. I went SCSI on that one, and regretted that the most I thought we could afford was a 2 GB drive. However, drives and RAM were vastly more expensive back then, and the money was worth more, too.
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Old 2017-05-28, 01:36   #15
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My first had 2K. And off-line storage was cassette tapes at 110 baud.

I once spent CDN $1,600 for 8 MB of RAM. And CDN $1,500 for a 20 MB harddrive.

The times they are a'changing.
My 128K 8088 computer cost US $850. I later updated it to 640K. The first HD I bought was a Seagate 30MB for US $350.

exFAT is still used today. I bought a 64GB Sandisk thumb-drive about a month ago which was formatted as exFAT. Me not being comfortable with that, and its intended use, I formatted it as NTFS.
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Old 2017-05-28, 01:55   #16
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Well slap me hard and put me away wet!

My only defence is I don't use anything proprietary.
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Old 2017-05-28, 10:15   #17
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2.2 k (Vic20) + 16K extension, and a Sinclair-Timex ZX81 with 1k.

With the first I POKEd the high memory locations to store the decimal digits of PI I was calculating, while the ZX81 was my showcase to learn how to produce faster and smaller BASIC one-line programs.
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Old 2017-05-30, 00:31   #18
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2.2 k (Vic20) + 16K extension
Yeah. I remember the Commodore Vic 20s.

A young girl brought in a strong speaker magnate, and placed it on the front of the colour monitor (really a TV) because it amused her. Mr. Beck was seriously pissed off.

He was happy when I was able to reverse the effect by turning the magnate the opposite way, and carefully degassing the monitor.

Meanwhile, six very serious young people were working on Commodore PETs, with up to 32K of RAM, sharing a dual floppy drive via a IEEE 488 cable.
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Old 2017-05-30, 00:36   #19
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... strong speaker magnate ...
I think you might mean something else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnate
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Old 2017-05-30, 00:47   #20
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I think you might mean something else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnate
Ah, man... I can't win. What part of magnetic isn't clear?
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Old 2017-05-30, 02:17   #21
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A young girl brought in a strong speaker magnate, and placed it on the front of the colour monitor (really a TV) because it amused her. Mr. Beck was seriously pissed off.

He was happy when I was able to reverse the effect by turning the magnate the opposite way, and carefully degassing the monitor.
Strong speaker magnates are observed to emit a lot of hot air during their speeches, but there is no evidence that they are able to degass nearby objects.

The best way to degass old CRT monitors is to use a steamroller to produce a flatscreen, releasing magic smoke gass in the process. This results in a lot of stuck pixels, however.
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Old 2017-05-30, 03:24   #22
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The best way to degass old CRT monitors is to use a steamroller to produce a flatscreen, releasing magic smoke gass in the process.
Hmm, degassing a vacuum. An interesting idea.

Those old CRTs are kind of sucky when they spring a leak.
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