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Old 2019-12-11, 17:50   #1563
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...Not by my own choice of course, but the win10 box I have at work has autoupdates forced on by group policy (corporate IT).
I hated it when the previous versions of Win 10 would restart in the wee hours of the morning and not give a warning before. Prime95 and/or mfaktc would just sit until I got up in the morning and would notice they were not running.

1903 will give me a warning when it wants to restart outside of "off-line" hours. This machine has no "off-line" hours. It is always running something. If would be nice if I could configure it to not restart anytime without me allowing it to do so.
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Old 2019-12-11, 17:55   #1564
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I hated it when the previous versions of Win 10 would restart in the wee hours of the morning and not give a warning before. Prime95 and/or mfaktc would just sit until I got up in the morning and would notice they were not running.

1903 will give me a warning when it wants to restart outside of "off-line" hours. This machine has no "off-line" hours. It is always running something. If would be nice if I could configure it to not restart anytime without me allowing it to do so.
I kind of accomplished that, by setting the "active hours" to coincide with when I sleep. That way I am guaranteed of no reboots overnight.
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Old 2019-12-11, 17:59   #1565
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I hated it when the previous versions of Win 10 would restart in the wee hours of the morning and not give a warning before. Prime95 and/or mfaktc would just sit until I got up in the morning and would notice they were not running.

1903 will give me a warning when it wants to restart outside of "off-line" hours. This machine has no "off-line" hours. It is always running something. If would be nice if I could configure it to not restart anytime without me allowing it to do so.
Windows 10 Education and Pro gives you the option of delaying restarts. Also, you can disable automatic windows update restart by editing it services (services.msc).

Alternatively, you can automatically have your applications start on windows startup. Make a shortcut of your .exe or make a .bat to start it, then drag those to C:\Users\[your user name]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup.

Yes it is annoying, that's how I got around it. I'm sure someone already filed a suit against msft for forcing people to restart.
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Old 2019-12-11, 18:09   #1566
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Alternatively, you can automatically have your applications start on windows startup. Make a shortcut of your .exe or make a .bat to start it, then drag those to C:\Users\[your user name]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup.
I think what you wrote is start-up of selected applications when the user logs in afterward, not at system boot.

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Old 2019-12-11, 18:12   #1567
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I think what you wrote is start-up of selected applications when the user logs in afterward, not at system boot.
Oops epic failed again. I think the correct one is

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\
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Old 2019-12-11, 18:23   #1568
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Oops epic failed again. I think the correct one is

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\
Thank you. Both for the update and your preceding post. Convergence is good. Participation is essential.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena..."
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And for Windows Home, see http://www.thundercloud.net/infoave/...ndows-10-home/

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Old 2019-12-11, 18:49   #1569
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Running at 749/750 us/it now...
We may be needing a place where we can lookup/submit the best gpu settings for various GPU's running gpuowl...
Here works, for now. If people would use it, I will create a discussion thread dedicated to gpuowl tune. I suggest including most if not all the elements of https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpo...postcount=1553
Most essential are the gpu model, gpuowl version & commit, optimal -use settings, and expected timing for a stated clock rate and stated fft size, preferably the first-test current wavefront which is 5M now, and computation type. Right now there's PRP and P-1 stage 1 or 2. Possibly later LL will return. OS is also recommended.

To make this easy we could create a blank form post, a sort of skeleton to which the individual benchmark and tune data could be added and reposted.
I may toss a draft form together. They're likely to vary, as the available -use options vary with the commit number.

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Old 2019-12-11, 19:16   #1570
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The folder:

C:\Users\[your user name]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

is for programs that should start only when that specific user logs in, while the folder:

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\

is for programs that should start for all users logging in
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Old 2019-12-11, 19:19   #1571
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Default draft gpuowl -use tune form

Draft empty form
Code:
Gpuowl version and commit   
GPU model    
GPU clock    
Host OS        
Notes    

Exponent timed     
Computation type (PRP, P-1 stage 1, P-1 stage 2):    
FFT length    FFT 5120K: Width 256x4, Height 64x4, Middle 10; 17.13 bits/word (copy/paste from console or log)
config file entries    -time -iters ? -device ? -user ? -cpu ?

varying tuning -use options, in chronological order
    NO_ASM us/sq warmup, end user interaction, stabilize
    NO_ASM baseline

In benchmarking (highlight fastest time in bold)
    NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN
    NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN (repeatability)
    NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN1
    NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN1A
    NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN2
    NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN3
     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN4
     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN5

Out benchmarking (highlight fastest time in bold)
     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT
     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT0
     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT1
     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT1A
     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT2
     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT3
     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT4
     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT5

Fastest WORKINGIN, Fastest WORKINGOUT combination:
     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN?,WORKINGOUT?

repeatability +-?/? = +-0.?%
best 
base 
ratio
Post 1553 filled example
Code:
Gpuowl version and commit    v6.11-79-g0c139c4
GPU model    AMD RX550 4GB 
GPU clock    fixed 1203Mhz gpu clock by design
Host OS        Win7 Pro x64
Notes    (anything the person posting it wants to include for future reference or explanation)

Exponent timed    89796247 
Computation type (PRP, P-1 stage 1, P-1 stage 2):    PRP
FFT length    FFT 5120K: Width 256x4, Height 64x4, Middle 10; 17.13 bits/word (copy/paste from console or log)
config file entries    -time -iters 10000 -device 1 -user kriesel -cpu condorella/rx550

varying tuning -use options, in chronological order
15919    NO_ASM us/sq warmup, end user interaction, stabilize
15915    NO_ASM baseline

In benchmarking (highlight fastest time in bold)
20500    NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN
20498    NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN (repeatability)
15585    NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN1
15589    NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN1A
15751    NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN2
15990    NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN3
18175     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN4
15568     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN5

Out benchmarking (highlight fastest time in bold)
33707     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT
19353     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT0
16301     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT1
16284     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT1A
15945     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT2
16002     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT3
16484     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT4
17037     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGOUT5

Fastest WORKINGIN, Fastest WORKINGOUT combination:
15373     NO_ASM,MERGED_MIDDLE,WORKINGIN5,WORKINGOUT2

repeatability +-1/20499 = +-0.005%
best 15373
base 15915
ratio 1.0353
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Old 2019-12-11, 20:18   #1572
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The folder:

C:\Users\[your user name]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

is for programs that should start only when that specific user logs in, while the folder:

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\

is for programs that should start for all users logging in
So, the second is also not at system startup.
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Old 2019-12-11, 20:18   #1573
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What we really need is the equivalent of --perftest from mfakto to gpuowl - while I don't mind manually doing it takes a decent amount of time and others may not be inclined to do something like this... Plus, I'm sure retests will be necessary as things are changed or added in time.
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