Engine-assisted game vs Stockfish, move 19 discussion - Page 2

axn · 2016-12-26, 07:41

Are you using any table bases for your analysis? If not, would you be able to?

gd_barnes · 2016-12-26, 08:34

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Originally Posted by axn

Are you using any table bases for your analysis? If not, would you be able to?

I used an opening database through about move 16. Are you aware of any table bases that go this deep in this variation?

axn · 2016-12-26, 13:59

No, I meant end-game table bases. K8 supports Syzygy. Using EGTBs will lead to more accurate analysis.

MooMoo2 · 2016-12-26, 18:52

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Originally Posted by gd_barnes

This game is now just running too fast for me to keep up with. I have been having a lot of problems getting Arena and Komdo to run properly the last couple of weeks. Now it has quit working completely. I even did a complete uninstall and reinstall with only temporary results. With the holidays I am not sure that I will be able to find the time to help with this move. I will keep trying but can give no guarantees. Sorry.

Happy holidays! After voting is done on this move, would everyone like the following system as a replacement to the current 3 days discussion / 3 days vote system?

Sunday morning, ~ 4 AM GMT: Poll is posted with a poll closing time of ~4 AM, Thursday morning GMT
Thursday morning, ~4 AM GMT: Discussion thread is posted with Stockfish's response

If the move is obvious, the poll may be skipped, but the discussion will still be posted on Thursday morning at ~4 AM GMT. It slows the game a bit and hopefully makes the game easier to follow. If I'm out of town on Sunday or Thursday, I'll post the poll/discussion threads early, but I'll give extra time for voting/discussion so that the next poll/discussion post will remain on Sunday/Thursday. Also, Stockfish's response will continue to be posted almost immediately after the poll closes.

LaurV · 2016-12-27, 07:51

I agree with MooMoo's game schedule, in case we play this game to the end. But as it was said before, I don't think we can win anymore, and we (Rybka and me) partially lost the interest.

About the game: Kh8 is sure a draw, we can not improve anything. I played about 12-15 moves against Rybka (I mean both of us playing boths sides at each move, i.e. I was playing/chosing, but with its analysis running in front of me, taking moves back, etc.) which would make about 30-40 moves deep from here (including its analysis' depth) and there is no way for any part to win, unless the other part plays stupid. Rybka still gives a small advantage to white in this position, but that slowly melts as the game progresses.

We can try the other branch (i.e. e4).

Happy holidays to all!

gd_barnes · 2016-12-27, 08:27

I also like MooMoo's schedule.

gd_barnes · 2016-12-27, 10:27

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Originally Posted by axn

No, I meant end-game table bases. K8 supports Syzygy. Using EGTBs will lead to more accurate analysis.

I have a 7-piece end-game analysis site that I have paid for. I guess I'm not familiar with end-game table bases. Can you refer me to Syzygy?

axn · 2016-12-27, 11:09

You can refer to komodo 8 readme: https://komodochess.com/store/pages.php?cmsid=14
Section: Tablebase support

Has links to where you can download Syzygy TBs.

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2016-12-26, 07:41	#12
axn Jun 2003 2³·683 Posts	Are you using any table bases for your analysis? If not, would you be able to?

2016-12-26, 13:59	#14
axn Jun 2003 2³·683 Posts	No, I meant end-game table bases. K8 supports Syzygy. Using EGTBs will lead to more accurate analysis.

2016-12-27, 07:51	#16
LaurV Romulan Interpreter "name field" Jun 2011 Thailand 41·251 Posts	I agree with MooMoo's game schedule, in case we play this game to the end. But as it was said before, I don't think we can win anymore, and we (Rybka and me) partially lost the interest. About the game: Kh8 is sure a draw, we can not improve anything. I played about 12-15 moves against Rybka (I mean both of us playing boths sides at each move, i.e. I was playing/chosing, but with its analysis running in front of me, taking moves back, etc.) which would make about 30-40 moves deep from here (including its analysis' depth) and there is no way for any part to win, unless the other part plays stupid. Rybka still gives a small advantage to white in this position, but that slowly melts as the game progresses. We can try the other branch (i.e. e4). Happy holidays to all!

2016-12-27, 08:27	#17
gd_barnes "Gary" May 2007 Overland Park, KS 11000000000111₂ Posts	I also like MooMoo's schedule.

2016-12-27, 11:09	#19
axn Jun 2003 12530₈ Posts	You can refer to komodo 8 readme: https://komodochess.com/store/pages.php?cmsid=14 Section: Tablebase support Has links to where you can download Syzygy TBs.