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Old 2018-04-11, 21:42   #155
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May I suggest you peddle that sort of counterfactual rubbish over at Daily Kos?
Just to drill down on this a bit further...

Have you ever worked with oxyacetylene welding kit? Serious stuff.

Four hydrogen atoms; two carbon atoms. Skinny as heck. Loves oxygen.

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Old 2018-04-11, 21:59   #156
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Or, perhaps, here...

It is simple to make a very bad gas anywhere consumer products are available.

Mixing chlorine bleach with vinegar is a really bad idea, for example....
Bleach plus household ammonia can be deadly.
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Old 2018-04-11, 22:04   #157
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Bleach plus household ammonia can be deadly.
Please forgive me for this, but do you know why?
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Old 2018-04-11, 23:07   #158
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Please forgive me for this, but do you know why?
Since no one seems to be comfortable speaking to this, may I please present an authoritative statement?

In some ways this is unreasonable, since the chlorine around a pool is probably greater than what could be achieved by an attack.

But, this is where we find ourselves...

I look forward to responses....
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Please forgive me for this, but do you know why?
Now I am reminded of the chemical details:
https://www.thoughtco.com/bleach-and...eaction-609280
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Old 2018-04-12, 00:12   #160
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Now I am reminded of the chemical details:
https://www.thoughtco.com/bleach-and...eaction-609280
Weren't you taught this is high school?
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Weren't you taught this is high school?
I was taught it at my mother's knee, as it were. She was an industrial chemist during WWII. (Metallurgy. Hughes Tool.) Lost her job when the men came back from war. I did not remember the particular products.

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Old 2018-04-12, 00:41   #162
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I was taught it at my mother's knee, as it were. She was an industrial chemist during WWII. (Metallurgy. Hughes Tool.) Lost her job when the men came back from war. I did not remember the particular products.
Please forgive me for that. No offence meant.

Chemistry will be one of the first things replaced by AI, just after truck drivers.
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I was taught it at my mother's knee, as it were. She was an industrial chemist during WWII. (Metallurgy. Hughes Tool.) Lost her job when the men came back from war. I did not remember the particular products.
I resonate somewhat with this.

I was allowed to play with matches as a child. Starting fires with surfer. Lot of fun for all.

I once compressed several matches into a "bolt bomb" which worked so well I almost blew my eyes out.

To this day I have shrapnel in my eyes, which disallows me from having an MRI.

"My goodness!", they say, "that almost went all the way through your cornea!".
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Please forgive me for that. No offence meant.

Chemistry will be one of the first things replaced by AI, just after truck drivers.
None taken.
I did some pretty crazy stuff with the chemistry set they gave me. The supply of calcium carbide I got my Dad to get for me was endless fun, too.

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Have you ever worked with oxyacetylene welding kit? Serious stuff.

Four hydrogen atoms; two carbon atoms. Skinny as heck. Loves oxygen.
Surprised that no one else mentioned that this is blatantly false. C2H2 is the gas in question. All of that extra energy comes from the triple bond. C2H4 does not yield as much energy as C2H2, per mole.

Back to Chem 101 for you.

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