Strategic Double Clicking - Page 95

Mark Rose · 2016-06-13, 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madpoo

Here's a new list of strategic double checks.

Code:

exponent	Bad	Good	Unk	Sus	Solo	Mis	worktodo
41097391	6	1	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=41097391,72,1
41142403	1	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=41142403,72,1
41241313	6	1	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=41241313,72,1
41255129	6	1	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=41255129,73,1
45627863	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=45627863,72,1
45968987	3	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=45968987,74,1

I took these as well.

Madpoo · 2016-06-18, 05:40

Been a little while since putting up a list of strategic double checks...

Code:

exponent	Bad	Good	Unk	Sus	Solo	Mis	worktodo
39839603	5	1	2	1	2	1	DoubleCheck=39839603,71,1
39992243	19	2	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=39992243,71,1
40123351	10	3	4	0	2	2	DoubleCheck=40123351,72,1
40404289	8	2	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=40404289,72,1
40413371	38	5	2	0	1	1	DoubleCheck=40413371,72,1
40417361	8	2	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=40417361,72,1
40473841	5	1	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=40473841,72,1
40501819	5	1	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=40501819,72,1
40641659	5	1	2	1	2	1	DoubleCheck=40641659,72,1
40641803	4	1	2	0	1	1	DoubleCheck=40641803,72,1
40907387	3	1	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=40907387,72,1
41073203	13	3	3	0	2	1	DoubleCheck=41073203,72,1
41147833	13	3	3	0	2	1	DoubleCheck=41147833,72,1
41162717	4	1	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=41162717,72,1
41183999	3	1	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=41183999,72,1
41216213	6	2	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=41216213,72,1
41590819	5	1	2	1	2	1	DoubleCheck=41590819,72,1
41407819	3	1	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=41407819,72,1
41566073	3	1	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=41566073,72,1
46520153	3	1	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=46520153,72,1
67209017	3	0	3	1	3	1	DoubleCheck=67209017,74,1
69432359	3	0	3	1	3	1	DoubleCheck=69432359,75,1
69676049	22	5	8	0	2	6	DoubleCheck=69676049,74,1
69676169	22	5	8	0	2	6	DoubleCheck=69676169,74,1
70448837	3	1	0	3	3	0	DoubleCheck=70448837,75,1
70503361	3	1	0	3	3	0	DoubleCheck=70503361,75,1
70506521	3	0	0	3	3	0	DoubleCheck=70506521,75,1
71444189	11	3	1	5	1	5	DoubleCheck=71444189,75,1
73484093	19	2	18	0	18	0	DoubleCheck=73484093,75,1
73511609	5	1	11	0	11	0	DoubleCheck=73511609,75,1
73512001	5	1	11	0	11	0	DoubleCheck=73512001,75,1
73512041	5	1	11	0	11	0	DoubleCheck=73512041,75,1
73546003	5	1	11	0	11	0	DoubleCheck=73546003,75,1
73566083	5	1	11	0	11	0	DoubleCheck=73566083,75,1
73602083	5	1	11	0	11	0	DoubleCheck=73602083,75,1
73605017	11	0	13	0	13	0	DoubleCheck=73605017,75,1
73611509	5	1	11	0	11	0	DoubleCheck=73611509,75,1
73612051	5	1	11	0	11	0	DoubleCheck=73612051,75,1
73612141	5	1	11	0	11	0	DoubleCheck=73612141,75,1
73613957	11	0	13	0	13	0	DoubleCheck=73613957,75,1
73642903	19	4	8	0	6	2	DoubleCheck=73642903,75,1
73645043	19	4	8	0	6	2	DoubleCheck=73645043,75,1
73645807	19	4	8	0	6	2	DoubleCheck=73645807,75,1
73646803	19	4	8	0	6	2	DoubleCheck=73646803,75,1
73648129	19	4	8	0	6	2	DoubleCheck=73648129,75,1
73648909	19	4	8	0	6	2	DoubleCheck=73648909,75,1
73681061	11	0	13	0	13	0	DoubleCheck=73681061,75,1
73682051	19	2	18	0	18	0	DoubleCheck=73682051,75,1
73809503	19	2	18	0	18	0	DoubleCheck=73809503,75,1
73809601	19	2	18	0	18	0	DoubleCheck=73809601,75,1
73812031	19	2	18	0	18	0	DoubleCheck=73812031,75,1
73812899	19	2	18	0	18	0	DoubleCheck=73812899,75,1
73914811	19	2	18	0	18	0	DoubleCheck=73914811,75,1
73915063	19	2	18	0	18	0	DoubleCheck=73915063,75,1
74132521	3	0	0	3	3	0	DoubleCheck=74132521,75,1
76217353	3	0	3	1	2	2	DoubleCheck=76217353,75,1
76339363	3	0	3	1	2	2	DoubleCheck=76339363,75,1
78131047	24	5	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=78131047,75,1
78171409	24	5	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=78171409,75,1
78401023	24	5	5	0	5	0	DoubleCheck=78401023,75,1

manfred4 · 2016-06-18, 09:07

Took these

Code:

exponent	Bad	Good	Unk	Sus	Solo	Mis	worktodo
39839603	5	1	2	1	2	1	DoubleCheck=39839603,71,1
39992243	19	2	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=39992243,71,1
40123351	10	3	4	0	2	2	DoubleCheck=40123351,72,1
40404289	8	2	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=40404289,72,1
40413371	38	5	2	0	1	1	DoubleCheck=40413371,72,1
40417361	8	2	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=40417361,72,1
40473841	5	1	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=40473841,72,1
40501819	5	1	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=40501819,72,1
40641659	5	1	2	1	2	1	DoubleCheck=40641659,72,1
40641803	4	1	2	0	1	1	DoubleCheck=40641803,72,1

Prime95 · 2016-06-18, 14:15

and I took these:

Code:

40907387	3	1	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=40907387,72,1
41073203	13	3	3	0	2	1	DoubleCheck=41073203,72,1
41147833	13	3	3	0	2	1	DoubleCheck=41147833,72,1
41162717	4	1	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=41162717,72,1
41183999	3	1	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=41183999,72,1
41216213	6	2	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=41216213,72,1

Mark Rose · 2016-06-18, 21:59

Code:

exponent	Bad	Good	Unk	Sus	Solo	Mis	worktodo
41590819	5	1	2	1	2	1	DoubleCheck=41590819,72,1
41407819	3	1	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=41407819,72,1
41566073	3	1	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=41566073,72,1
46520153	3	1	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=46520153,72,1

I took these.

Mark Rose · 2016-06-21, 03:55

From the previous list, I took:

Code:

exponent	Bad	Good	Unk	Sus	Solo	Mis	worktodo
41241313	6	1	3	0	3	0	DoubleCheck=41241313,72,1
41255129	6	1	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=41255129,73,1
45627863	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=45627863,72,1
45968987	3	0	1	0	1	0	DoubleCheck=45968987,74,1
47231027	9	3	6	2	4	4	DoubleCheck=47231027,74,1
47368703	3	1	7	0	5	2	DoubleCheck=47368703,74,1
47374993	3	1	7	0	5	2	DoubleCheck=47374993,74,1
47884789	1	0	2	0	2	0	DoubleCheck=47884789,72,1
48782423	9	3	6	2	4	4	DoubleCheck=48782423,74,1
49554821	9	3	6	2	4	4	DoubleCheck=49554821,74,1
49602347	3	1	7	0	5	2	DoubleCheck=49602347,74,1
50158111	9	3	6	2	4	4	DoubleCheck=50158111,75,1

Mark Rose · 2016-06-26, 15:45

As I went picking through the bones of previous lists, I do have one thought: the results marked as "suspect" in the CAT 0 or above should be eliminated. It seems PrimeNet considers them as first-time LL when the exponents are registered.

Madpoo · 2016-06-28, 02:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Rose

As I went picking through the bones of previous lists, I do have one thought: the results marked as "suspect" in the CAT 0 or above should be eliminated. It seems PrimeNet considers them as first-time LL when the exponents are registered.

Hmm... I wasn't quite sure what you were asking...

A few "fun facts" about suspect results. As mentioned, so far about half of suspect results turn out to be bad. That ratio may in fact go up as we clear out the backlog of mismatches from double-checked work.

Some stats:
4663 - the # of exponents that have been checked twice (or more) and still no match
1719 - the # of those where neither result was marked suspect
2944 - the # where one of the mismatches is suspect

Let's call that 37% of mismatches were from two "clean" results, and 63% are because the first run was suspect (it's almost always the first run that was suspect, very rarely is the 2nd one suspect, but it does happen from time to time).

Essentially, it would be a VERY safe guess that of the 2944 mismatches where one is suspect, it's the suspect result that's bad. And of course, maybe one time out of 100, both are bad (in my personal experience).

Anyway, the rate of suspect results being bad could actually be higher than half, we just didn't have enough of the unknown stuff sorted out yet.

Mark Rose · 2016-06-28, 07:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madpoo

Hmm... I wasn't quite sure what you were asking...

I mean exponents like M78037517. When I got the assignment it came in as LL not DC.

Madpoo · 2016-06-29, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Rose

I mean exponents like M78037517. When I got the assignment it came in as LL not DC.

Oh... I see.

Yeah, I guess that's true. Generally speaking, suspect results are usually handed back out again as a first time check pretty quick because they tend to be in ranges where a lot of work is going on. That one, and a few others (242 of them) are suspect, available for assignment still, and only tested that one time so far.

I guess with that said, if we're looking at strategic double-checking, the solo tested suspect results should probably be considered.

There are 63 of them in the LL category 1 section (below 70.6M), and given that a suspect result is traditionally about 50/50 good/bad that may fall into the "let's get 'em done now" category.

In total, 240 of the 242 are all below 80M. The exceptions are M123456811 and M595999993.

kladner · 2016-07-03, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by kladner

I'll take this one:

Code:

40608851    1    0    2    0    2    0    DoubleCheck=40608851,72,1

This finished with a mismatch.

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Mark Rose "/X\(‘-‘)/X\" Jan 2013 2930₁₀ Posts	As I went picking through the bones of previous lists, I do have one thought: the results marked as "suspect" in the CAT 0 or above should be eliminated. It seems PrimeNet considers them as first-time LL when the exponents are registered.