Primenet web design

[Prime95]

Originally Posted by petrw1

So now it is on curve 3 of 2 (Yes: curve three of two)\

Don't expect that bug to make it very high on my priority list :)

[petrw1]

Originally Posted by Prime95

Don't expect that bug to make it very high on my priority list :)

I don't call that a "bug" .... it's more like an ID-10-T deterrent "feature".

[tha]

How much bonus points does one get if one is the first to report the image of Marin Mersenne missing on the Gimps homepage header?

[Madpoo]

Originally Posted by tha

How much bonus points does one get if one is the first to report the image of Marin Mersenne missing on the Gimps homepage header?

He's always looked that way, I don't know what you're talking about.

[snme2pm1]

I recently had occasion to utilise http://www.mersenne.org/assignments
I note a button captioned "Get Assignments", which has even before now bothered me a tiny bit.
However if one were to visit http://www.mersenne.org/manual_assignment/
such person might note a button captioned "Get Assignments".
Surely and certainly these can not mean the same thing.
The semantics underpinning each is vastly different.
Yes, it's a different context, but the idea of "Get Assignments" might be deemed a quite awkward way of saying "List Assignments".
It doesn't help the perception of a viewer, to have two buttons with the same caption doing entirely different things.
In short, the query here is to the consistency of nomenclature throughout the site.
Suggest change of caption on the button when offering to refresh the list of existing assignments.

[Madpoo]

Originally Posted by snme2pm1

I recently had occasion to utilise http://www.mersenne.org/assignments
I note a button captioned "Get Assignments", which has even before now bothered me a tiny bit.
However if one were to visit http://www.mersenne.org/manual_assignment/
such person might note a button captioned "Get Assignments".
Surely and certainly these can not mean the same thing.
The semantics underpinning each is vastly different.
Yes, it's a different context, but the idea of "Get Assignments" might be deemed a quite awkward way of saying "List Assignments".
It doesn't help the perception of a viewer, to have two buttons with the same caption doing entirely different things.
In short, the query here is to the consistency of nomenclature throughout the site.
Suggest change of caption on the button when offering to refresh the list of existing assignments.

That's a fair and astute observation.

I'd like to think that in the context of each page it makes sense, but it's good to think of how someone less familiar with it might interpret things (I'm not saying you're unfamiliar with it, but that you put yourself in their shoes).

I'll take a look... "List Assignments" would probably work if I can't think of anything better.

[retina]

Originally Posted by Madpoo

"List Assignments"

"Show Assignments"
"Display Assignments"
"Kindly please would you be ever so kind as to provide me with a tabular listing of the currently assigned work. Thanks ever so muchly"

Although I admit that last one may be a little bit too concise and unclear. It might need some fleshing out.

[Madpoo]

Originally Posted by retina

"Show Assignments"
"Display Assignments"
"Kindly please would you be ever so kind as to provide me with a tabular listing of the currently assigned work. Thanks ever so muchly"

Although I admit that last one may be a little bit too concise and unclear. It might need some fleshing out.

Wise guy...

I came up with "retrieve", "fetch", "enumerate"...

Okay, I went with just "List Assignments"

[snme2pm1]

Originally Posted by retina

"Show Assignments"

Indeed I also had that "show" verb in mind as a reasonable verb, but sometimes these things become a fashion choice.
I don't set my mind to bother with fashion.

[wreck]

Originally Posted by Madpoo

Well, I could just as easily say people should be using Chrome instead.

I don't know what traffic to mersenne.org looks like lately (% of visitors with different browsers). I *can* say that at my regular day job, pretty much across the planet, Chrome is the top browser.

There used to be a weird anomaly with Chinese traffic where IE was the top browser, specifically IE 6. For some reason, IE 6 hung around in China for WAY too long.There used to be this odd pocket of Firefox users in Germany for a while, but now Chrome beats out FF there, and Safari is the #1 browser of choice at just under 30%. :)

Hmm... just looked, and Safari is actually pretty high on some other countries too, in the #1 spot. I think that's mobile visitors which account for a LOT of traffic. If I look at websites where the audience comes from countries without a huge mobile market (Brazil, Argentina, etc) Chrome accounts for 60+ % of visits.

Anyway, Firefox is generally in the #5 spot or below with 5-10% of the visitors using any version.

There's interesting stuff to learn about countries just based on what browsers they use. :) And for the record, lots of people have Android, but not many use the crappy stock browser. :) A good 2 out of 3 use Chrome on Android. :)

-- Okay, I just looked at the latest stats for mersenne.org:
Chrome = 53.26 %
Firefox = 26.01 %
IE = 13.05 %
Safari = 4.21 %
Opera = 1.96 %

It's obviously skewed because people don't really visit the site from mobile devices, so it's a little lacking the heavy influence of Chrome and Safari from them. But there you go. Raw data, enjoy.

I am not sure whether the google is not permit in China is the reason.
When I open the
http://www.mersenne.org/primenet/
there is a warning in the status bar says

jquery-2.1.1.min.js line 2
google not defined

[Madpoo]

Originally Posted by wreck

I am not sure whether the google is not permit in China is the reason.
When I open the
http://www.mersenne.org/primenet/
there is a warning in the status bar says

jquery-2.1.1.min.js line 2
google not defined

It could be a Great Firewall issue, possibly, but not in accessing jquery itself. The site loads jquery from the Microsoft CDN (ajax.aspnetcdn.com).

However, that particular page *does* use a Google Graph to display the TFlops for the past week, and that may be what you're having a problem with?

If you can reach this URL from your browser than that's not the problem (it should return some Javascript):
http://www.google.com/jsapi

For further troubleshooting you could look at a tool like Fiddler to see if any particular resource in the page is getting an error.

Part of my real job involves running a bunch of websites including one for Chinese visitors, and we have some Google calls on the page (ads, analytics, etc) and sometimes it's slow (well, it's almost always slow in mainland China) but I haven't seen anything get blocked outright.

We've found that about the only way you're ever going to get good performance inside China is to host the site locally. But then it gets complicated with obtaining the ICP license and either colocating or using ChinaCache to push content to the edge.

In general I've seen the China firewall add about one second of latency for each resource being loaded. Images tend to pass through pretty fast but text/* resources take longer as they're analyzed.

That Fiddler tool will help... maybe resources aren't loading at all, or maybe it's taking so long it's timing out, etc. If you find anything out of place, let me know and I'll see if there's any changes we can make to speed it up.

I have about 1.5 TB of data on an old CDN plan we no longer use and all that data will expire in a year, so maybe for a one-year period or until it's all used up, I can put some of the static resources (images, JS, CSS) on there. I think they have POPs in Hong Kong which is as close as you can get to mainland China without an ICP.