Move 32

paulunderwood · 2014-06-19, 06:34

We have one move: Kd7. Do we need to delay? :smile:

Brian-E · 2014-06-19, 07:19

I say move immediately.:smile:

richs · 2014-06-19, 14:22

And we have moved.... I just awoke for work.

henryzz · 2014-06-19, 14:57

Maybe we will have to think next move. This one they could have done for us.

richs · 2014-06-19, 15:07

I've been looking at this position and I think we still have play although we will be down a rook to a bishop. I'll post my analysis later when I get to the office.

henryzz · 2014-06-19, 15:46

I think it fair to say that we are behind. Where did we go wrong? Any particular move?

paulunderwood · 2014-06-19, 15:54

I would say our Nb3, allowing the pin of White's Rb1.

Like Rich, I think we still have play, especially if we cam promote our a-pawn, at the same time not allowing our other two pawns to give way to White's opposite pawns' advances. :smile:

Brian-E · 2014-06-19, 22:34

I think we've been worse since 16...c4. We didn't anticipate the weaknesses of our queenside pawns after their simple reply 17.d4.

In my opinion 28...Nb3 was a fine move, keeping activity at the cost of the exchange, when the alternative 28...Ndc6 would have been too passive and would have inevitably succumbed to the pawn weaknesses and space disadvantage.

For now I think we have reasonable drawing chances based on the fact that there are few pawns left on the board and our pieces are now active.

richs · 2014-06-20, 02:40

Work commitments prevented me from posting today. Will do so later or tomorrow.

richs · 2014-06-22, 22:05

Sorry for the delay, here is the continuation line I looked at in detail:

33. Nxc8 Kxe6
34. Rb6+ Ke5
35. Rb5+ Kf6
36. Nxe7 Kxe7
37. Bd5 g5
38. Kg2 Kd6

Brian-E · 2014-06-23, 08:11

[QUOTE=richs;376503]Sorry for the delay, here is the continuation line I looked at in detail:

33. Nxc8 Kxe6
34. Rb6+ Ke5
35. Rb5+ Kf6
36. Nxe7 Kxe7
37. Bd5 g5
38. Kg2 Kd6[/QUOTE]
Also 34...Kf7 35.Rb7 Bd4+ 36.Kh1 Bc5 37.Bd5+ Kf6 looks quite adequate to me. And in your line, if they give back the exchange for a pawn by 34...Ke5 35.Nxe7 Bd4+ 36.Kh1 Bxb6 37.Nxg6+ we have excellent drawing chances in the minor pieces ending because of the few pawns on the board and the opposite coloured bishops.

2014-06-19, 06:34	#1
paulunderwood Sep 2002 Database er0rr 124D₁₆ Posts	Move 32 We have one move: Kd7. Do we need to delay? :smile:

2014-06-23, 08:11	#11
Brian-E "Brian" Jul 2007 The Netherlands 2×11×149 Posts	[QUOTE=richs;376503]Sorry for the delay, here is the continuation line I looked at in detail: 33. Nxc8 Kxe6 34. Rb6+ Ke5 35. Rb5+ Kf6 36. Nxe7 Kxe7 37. Bd5 g5 38. Kg2 Kd6[/QUOTE] Also 34...Kf7 35.Rb7 Bd4+ 36.Kh1 Bc5 37.Bd5+ Kf6 looks quite adequate to me. And in your line, if they give back the exchange for a pawn by 34...Ke5 35.Nxe7 Bd4+ 36.Kh1 Bxb6 37.Nxg6+ we have excellent drawing chances in the minor pieces ending because of the few pawns on the board and the opposite coloured bishops. Last fiddled with by Brian-E on 2014-06-23 at 08:34

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2014-06-19, 07:19	#2
Brian-E "Brian" Jul 2007 The Netherlands 2×11×149 Posts	I say move immediately.:smile:

2014-06-19, 14:22	#3
richs "Rich" Aug 2002 Benicia, California 11010110110₂ Posts	And we have moved.... I just awoke for work.

2014-06-19, 14:57	#4
henryzz Just call me Henry "David" Sep 2007 Liverpool (GMT/BST) 3·23·89 Posts	Maybe we will have to think next move. This one they could have done for us.

2014-06-19, 15:07	#5
richs "Rich" Aug 2002 Benicia, California 2×859 Posts	I've been looking at this position and I think we still have play although we will be down a rook to a bishop. I'll post my analysis later when I get to the office.

2014-06-19, 15:46	#6
henryzz Just call me Henry "David" Sep 2007 Liverpool (GMT/BST) 3·23·89 Posts	I think it fair to say that we are behind. Where did we go wrong? Any particular move?

2014-06-19, 15:54	#7
paulunderwood Sep 2002 Database er0rr 5×937 Posts	I would say our Nb3, allowing the pin of White's Rb1. Like Rich, I think we still have play, especially if we cam promote our a-pawn, at the same time not allowing our other two pawns to give way to White's opposite pawns' advances. :smile:

2014-06-19, 22:34	#8
Brian-E "Brian" Jul 2007 The Netherlands 110011001110₂ Posts	I think we've been worse since 16...c4. We didn't anticipate the weaknesses of our queenside pawns after their simple reply 17.d4. In my opinion 28...Nb3 was a fine move, keeping activity at the cost of the exchange, when the alternative 28...Ndc6 would have been too passive and would have inevitably succumbed to the pawn weaknesses and space disadvantage. For now I think we have reasonable drawing chances based on the fact that there are few pawns left on the board and our pieces are now active.

2014-06-20, 02:40	#9
richs "Rich" Aug 2002 Benicia, California 11010110110₂ Posts	Work commitments prevented me from posting today. Will do so later or tomorrow.

2014-06-22, 22:05	#10
richs "Rich" Aug 2002 Benicia, California 2×859 Posts	Sorry for the delay, here is the continuation line I looked at in detail: 33. Nxc8 Kxe6 34. Rb6+ Ke5 35. Rb5+ Kf6 36. Nxe7 Kxe7 37. Bd5 g5 38. Kg2 Kd6