Move 27

paulunderwood · 2014-05-06, 03:58

It seems to me our best reply is 27...Kf8 :smile:

richs · 2014-05-06, 04:38

I'm thinking Nxd4, but I want to think more about it....

paulunderwood · 2014-05-06, 04:42

Yes, what would White reply to Nxd4? It is certainly more aggressive and it might be worth sacrificing a knight at some stage in order to wipe out White's potential pawn promotions.

Brian-E · 2014-05-06, 09:42

27...Nxd4 was indeed the general intention here, re-establishing material equality for the moment at least. I have to go to work now and need to look more closely later, but at first glance it's the only move to avoid a very obviously bad endgame.

Brian-E · 2014-05-07, 16:37

[QUOTE=paulunderwood;372760]Yes, what would White reply to Nxd4?[/QUOTE]
Their strongest continuation looks to me like 28.Nd6+ Kd8 29.Nxc8 Kxc8 30.Re1 Nb3 31.Nxb3 Rxb3 32.Rxe6 Kd8 (not 32...Kd7 33.Bh3) when they have an extra pawn but we are still fighting.

I think this is preferable to allowing them to keep their connected c and d pawns. So I currently still favour 27...Nxd4.

paulunderwood · 2014-05-07, 17:10

I have run through many scenarios of Nxd4 -- that is how I have done a lot of analysis -- and we have good outcomes. At the moment, I strongly favour Nxd4 :smile:

henryzz · 2014-05-07, 17:35

Nxd4 here as well.

Brian-E · 2014-05-09, 17:49

What's the general feeling now, then? Rich said he wanted to think some more, but are others still thinking too?

My opinion is still that only 27...Nxd4 looks reasonable, so I'm not really working on the position myself.

henryzz · 2014-05-09, 19:13

I would happily move now.

paulunderwood · 2014-05-09, 21:23

Moving now is fine by me too. Rich?

richs · 2014-05-10, 02:22

Gents, I've looked during the week and I'm fine with Nxd4.

2014-05-06, 03:58	#1
paulunderwood Sep 2002 Database er0rr 5×937 Posts	Move 27 It seems to me our best reply is 27...Kf8 :smile:

2014-05-06, 04:38	#2
richs "Rich" Aug 2002 Benicia, California 2·859 Posts	I'm thinking Nxd4, but I want to think more about it.... Last fiddled with by richs on 2014-05-06 at 04:39 Reason: typo

2014-05-06, 04:42	#3
paulunderwood Sep 2002 Database er0rr 5×937 Posts	Yes, what would White reply to Nxd4? It is certainly more aggressive and it might be worth sacrificing a knight at some stage in order to wipe out White's potential pawn promotions. Last fiddled with by paulunderwood on 2014-05-06 at 04:46

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2014-05-06, 09:42	#4
Brian-E "Brian" Jul 2007 The Netherlands 2·11·149 Posts	27...Nxd4 was indeed the general intention here, re-establishing material equality for the moment at least. I have to go to work now and need to look more closely later, but at first glance it's the only move to avoid a very obviously bad endgame.

2014-05-07, 16:37	#5
Brian-E "Brian" Jul 2007 The Netherlands 2×11×149 Posts	[QUOTE=paulunderwood;372760]Yes, what would White reply to Nxd4?[/QUOTE] Their strongest continuation looks to me like 28.Nd6+ Kd8 29.Nxc8 Kxc8 30.Re1 Nb3 31.Nxb3 Rxb3 32.Rxe6 Kd8 (not 32...Kd7 33.Bh3) when they have an extra pawn but we are still fighting. I think this is preferable to allowing them to keep their connected c and d pawns. So I currently still favour 27...Nxd4.

2014-05-07, 17:10	#6
paulunderwood Sep 2002 Database er0rr 5·937 Posts	I have run through many scenarios of Nxd4 -- that is how I have done a lot of analysis -- and we have good outcomes. At the moment, I strongly favour Nxd4 :smile:

2014-05-07, 17:35	#7
henryzz Just call me Henry "David" Sep 2007 Liverpool (GMT/BST) 6141₁₀ Posts	Nxd4 here as well.

2014-05-09, 17:49	#8
Brian-E "Brian" Jul 2007 The Netherlands 3278₁₀ Posts	What's the general feeling now, then? Rich said he wanted to think some more, but are others still thinking too? My opinion is still that only 27...Nxd4 looks reasonable, so I'm not really working on the position myself.

2014-05-09, 19:13	#9
henryzz Just call me Henry "David" Sep 2007 Liverpool (GMT/BST) 3×23×89 Posts	I would happily move now.

2014-05-09, 21:23	#10
paulunderwood Sep 2002 Database er0rr 5×937 Posts	Moving now is fine by me too. Rich?

2014-05-10, 02:22	#11
richs "Rich" Aug 2002 Benicia, California 2·859 Posts	Gents, I've looked during the week and I'm fine with Nxd4.