Ferries and passenger shipping - Page 4

Xyzzy · 2014-09-16, 02:45

Vaguely related: http://www.lex18.com/news/700-feared...n-boat-wrecks/

Nick · 2014-10-17, 21:30

This story has finally reached the English language press:

Quote:

A newspaper in the Netherlands reports that Royal Caribbean has to pay at least €600,000 in fines for violating labor rules and regulations while the Oasis of the Seas was in the Netherlands. The newspaper says that ship employees lacked proper residence papers and worked excessive hours. Some of the crew members worked "up to 16 hours per day" the inspectors found.

http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2014/10...g-crewmembers/

kladner · 2014-10-18, 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

This story has finally reached the English language press:

http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2014/10...g-crewmembers/

Sheesh! That's really ugly. It makes me want to avoid Royal Caribbean should we ever consider taking a cruise. Granted, I don't know if perhaps ALL cruise lines are abusive employers.

Nick · 2014-11-03, 14:37

The final missing body has been found aboard the Costa Concordia
http://firenze.repubblica.it/cronaca...ello-99652943/

Nick · 2014-12-12, 18:03

3 people have died and 1 is in hospital following an engine room fire on a cruise ship in the Caribbean, docked at St. Lucia.
Press article: http://www.stlucianewsonline.com/bre...hip-contained/

kladner · 2014-12-12, 19:07

The story does not say there was an explosion. I have to wonder how the crew members got so terribly burned. I would have expected automated fire suppression on such a vessel. Even the modest car ferries I traveled on in Texas had warnings at the engine room door, to the effect that if the warning horn went off, humans should get out at once before the inert gas system (a Halon antique) flooded the space. A quick search shows that CO² systems are likely the most common, with nitrogen, and nitrogen-argon-CO² mixes also being mentioned.

Perhaps if there is such a system on this ship, the engineer hesitated to use it, and the fire got out of hand with lesser measures.

LaurV · 2014-12-13, 03:35

Opposite of our company (this means exactly on the other side of a 6-8 bands highway, so not very close, but yet) there was a HUGE Frito Lay factory which made potato chips. Big ovens and huge pots with hot oil. Open fire. Careless people. It burnt from the ground few years ago. The column of smoke and fire was a hundred meters wide from the ground, and kilometers tall. Fifty fire-fighting cars, or more. The heat could be felt to our company (both companies us and them have many buildings which were like 100 meters far away from the highway, plus the width of the highway and some water channels on both side of the highway). Few people got burned, one or two died (I think, I am not sure about this, but there were not many casualties, they were at least well trained with fire drills, I assume). Our people went outside and watched, like a movie. Pepsico rebuilt it to its full fame since then, but now they don't make potato chips anymore, I guess, because we can't feel the smell anymore

, what a pity, also the name is not Frito Lay, but was changed to Pepsico, they may be doing beverages, or whatever.

Xyzzy · 2014-12-13, 07:38

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/7311

Nick · 2014-12-28, 09:10

Norman Atlantic car ferry catches fire off Corfu and is being evacuated.

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An international rescue effort was under way in high winds after a car ferry carrying 466 passengers and crew caught fire while sailing from Greece to Italy and its captain ordered its evacuation, officials said on Sunday.
Passengers who telephoned Greek television stations gave dramatic accounts of conditions on the ship, which caught fire just before 6.00 am local time (0400 GMT) while travelling from Patras in western Greece to the eastern Italian city of Ancona.

Summary (in English): http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ire-off-greece

Full story (in Italian): http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2014...37/?ref=HREA-1

Nick · 2014-12-28, 13:19

Some passengers have now been saved but the evacuation is being hampered by high seas and strong winds.

Quote:

"The fire is still burning,» Greek passenger Sofoklis Styliaras told private Mega television. «On the lower deck, where the lifeboats are, our shoes were starting to melt from the heat. ..."

More details from the Greek press (in English):
http://ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_art...12/2014_545755

kladner · 2014-12-28, 18:02

I have come to regret the title I originally put on this thread. Clearly, problems with passenger vessels know no national boundaries,

2014-12-13, 03:35	#40
LaurV Romulan Interpreter Jun 2011 Thailand 2·5·31² Posts	Opposite of our company (this means exactly on the other side of a 6-8 bands highway, so not very close, but yet) there was a HUGE Frito Lay factory which made potato chips. Big ovens and huge pots with hot oil. Open fire. Careless people. It burnt from the ground few years ago. The column of smoke and fire was a hundred meters wide from the ground, and kilometers tall. Fifty fire-fighting cars, or more. The heat could be felt to our company (both companies us and them have many buildings which were like 100 meters far away from the highway, plus the width of the highway and some water channels on both side of the highway). Few people got burned, one or two died (I think, I am not sure about this, but there were not many casualties, they were at least well trained with fire drills, I assume). Our people went outside and watched, like a movie. Pepsico rebuilt it to its full fame since then, but now they don't make potato chips anymore, I guess, because we can't feel the smell anymore , what a pity, also the name is not Frito Lay, but was changed to Pepsico, they may be doing beverages, or whatever. Last fiddled with by LaurV on 2014-12-13 at 03:36

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