P-1 & LL wavefront slowed down? - Page 10

bsquared · 2013-12-10, 18:51

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Originally Posted by chalsall

Thanks for the "shout-out".

In my mind, one of the most impressive accomplishments in all of this is that of Mike, who has built a solid community of really smart people, skilled in a very wide range of domains, who (mostly) enjoy each other's company and generally try to help each other.

This kind of thing is not easy to do.

Agreed, mersenneforum rocks! Without it there would be no yafu either (whether or not it is useful).

R.D. Silverman · 2013-12-10, 18:56

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Originally Posted by chalsall

Mr. Silverman...

This statement alone clearly demonstrates that you do not understand all things.

Profound. Please show where I made such a claim.

kracker · 2013-12-10, 18:58

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Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman

Profound. Please show where I made such a claim.

Your claim is, in fact speaking your mind on things you do not know much about.

R.D. Silverman · 2013-12-10, 18:58

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Originally Posted by bsquared

Flamebait aside *cough* chasall */cough*, I understand that MISFIT was developed as an aid to gpu272, which was itself developed as an aid to GIMPS. I have never used either one, but casual browsing of the forum has made this much obvious.

Perhaps we are talking about different things? MisFIT == Minimal i386
Software Fault Isolation Tool??

Batalov · 2013-12-10, 18:59

There's stemming and there's stemming.

Some people may think that stemming is strictly coming from the same stem, e.g. branches and leaves of a: 1) plant, 2) software source. E.g. mmff stemmed from mfaktc; mmff-gfn stemmed from mmff. Or, say, LLR and/or SoB client stemmed from Prime95.

Some other people may think that stemming has to do with being in aid of. In this line of thinking, a Xmas tree toy stems from the pine tree. Well, it is attached to it, it hangs from it, it makes it less boring and it makes it more functional for a particular purpose - celebrating the holiday season.

Natural language is imprecise. And if people speak the same shorthand, they will glance over the multiple meanings and will not quibble. For people from different backgrounds, any given phrase could launch a lengthy debate, be that something as inane as "it sure is cold today".

R.D. Silverman · 2013-12-10, 19:00

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Originally Posted by bsquared

Agreed, mersenneforum rocks! Without it there would be no yafu either (whether or not it is useful).

Is yafu used for finding M_p? I thought that it was a factoring tool.

R.D. Silverman · 2013-12-10, 19:01

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Originally Posted by kracker

Your claim is, in fact speaking your mind on things you do not know much about.

Oh? An example would be useful.

bsquared · 2013-12-10, 19:03

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Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman

Perhaps we are talking about different things? MisFIT == Minimal i386
Software Fault Isolation Tool??

I have no idea what it stands for but clearly it isn't that.

bsquared · 2013-12-10, 19:04

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Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman

Is yafu used for finding M_p? I thought that it was a factoring tool.

No, it's not useful for finding M_p, but I was responding to a message talking about the usefulness of this forum, not of M_p related software. This forum is very germane to the existence of yafu.

chalsall · 2013-12-10, 19:12

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Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman

Oh? An example would be useful.

You've already provided it.

kracker · 2013-12-10, 19:22

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Originally Posted by bsquared

I have no idea what it stands for but clearly it isn't that.

http://mersenneforum.org/misfit/

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Originally Posted by chalsall

You've already provided it.

Can someone say crank? RDS is what he calls many others.

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2013-12-10, 18:59	#104
Batalov "Serge" Mar 2008 Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2 9,497 Posts	There's stemming and there's stemming. Some people may think that stemming is strictly coming from the same stem, e.g. branches and leaves of a: 1) plant, 2) software source. E.g. mmff stemmed from mfaktc; mmff-gfn stemmed from mmff. Or, say, LLR and/or SoB client stemmed from Prime95. Some other people may think that stemming has to do with being in aid of. In this line of thinking, a Xmas tree toy stems from the pine tree. Well, it is attached to it, it hangs from it, it makes it less boring and it makes it more functional for a particular purpose - celebrating the holiday season. Natural language is imprecise. And if people speak the same shorthand, they will glance over the multiple meanings and will not quibble. For people from different backgrounds, any given phrase could launch a lengthy debate, be that something as inane as "it sure is cold today".