Pseudo-mathematical gibberings (volume 9a) - Page 6

R.D. Silverman · 2015-01-23, 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by storflyt32

Question for you.

If you do not mind.

http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1100000000621571620

This number is the product of the P252 factor of 2^1024+1 and the the P564 factor of 2^2048+1.

I can update with the factors if there are no objections to this.

This is not a post from a bot. It is the post from an asshole who posts just to be annoying.

I will answer the question. The answer is:

One of its legs is both the same.

LaurV · 2015-01-24, 03:25

Lkooing to the "more info" tree on the fdb, tohse two are konwn from 2013, but tehy were used recnetly to gerenate ohter bgiger cmopsoite nubmers with over three hnurded dgiits by repetealdy mulplitying them with tewtnysveen dgiits pirmes, lsat one two dyas ago. So, it smees he is aslo fldooing the db with siht... It may be tmie for a new logner

storflyt32 · 2015-01-24, 20:43

http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1100000000744870056

How did this one come up?

Was it perhaps the result of two different factorizarions?

storflyt32 · 2015-01-25, 01:18

Oh, yes!

Thanks for calling me an asshole, Mr. Silverman.

Maybe it shows up in the food I am eating.

Numbers are not supposed to be hiding any secrets alone. They are either prime or composite.

If they happen to be composite, it is because they happen to be the product of two or more factors which are supposed to
be prime.

The amount of different numbers are supposed to be almost without limit. Consider infinity in this case which becomes a
number that has no meaningful definition.

The more numbers you start factorizing, the more factors it becomes.

RSA-768 is such a number.

It became factored but it could well have been left unfinished and been used in a certificate instead. For a single computer this number definitely stands its position, at least when comparing with slightly smaller number that are almost as difficult and not being factored yet.

Am I supposed to be doing this just for fun, or is it still something that I am possible able to learn by doing this?

Consider a textbook.

The author is giving examples. At the end in each lecture he or she leaves an example for the reader as an exercise.

Which is showing that there is always something around that you do not know about which has to be tried out.

Jayder · 2015-01-25, 01:32

I only have a few precious brain cells left, please somebody stop him before he kills the rest.

wombatman · 2015-01-25, 01:45

paulunderwood · 2015-01-25, 04:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by storflyt32

Numbers are not supposed to be hiding any secrets alone. They are either prime or composite.

If by "number" you mean positive integers then 1 is neither -- it is a unit

storflyt32 · 2015-01-25, 18:32

This question for you.

You certainly already know that I do not bother too much about codes and secrets, but rather am having an interest in numbers only.

I happened to stumble across a quite good factor here a little while ago.

The Yafu factorization software as you well know does not divide two numbers correctly at all times.

Like trying to divide 7 with 3, I get 2 as the answer.

For an even bigger number the returned answer may be something else in between.

The result I get becomes an approximation instead if such is the case.

But I next tried dividing this number from the C617 which is representing RSA-2048.

The number I got was an even one which therefore was divided by 2. Just using ecm instead should go for the same.

The interesting thing is that the number I get next is also a prime factor.

The two factors are quite a bit different when it comes to their individual sizes.

Because this did not end up being the correct factors, I may very well be in for a new complete cycle again.

Or did I perhaps stumble across something this time?

Apparently multiplying the two factors alone did not help very much here.

Batalov · 2015-01-25, 19:19

You stumbled with your left foot across your right foot, man.
This (masochistic self-humiliation of yours) has got to stop.

Your postings make people's eyes and brains bleed.
Every time they come in this thread (if they haven't yet learned their lesson to simply never visit it), they want a minute of their life back.
But they can't. There is no refund.

Let's start with 24 hours for you to think. Next time it will be a week.

R.D. Silverman · 2015-01-26, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by storflyt32

Oh, yes!

Thanks for calling me an asshole, Mr. Silverman.

Maybe it shows up in the food I am eating.

It shows up in the repeated gibberish that you post.

If you don't like being called an asshole then stop acting like one. Stop
posting spam/gibberish/word salad/complete nonsense.

Your posts are entirely devoid of any meaningful content.

xilman · 2015-01-26, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman

IYour posts are entirely devoid of any meaningful content.

They are, however, confined to the padded cell of Miscellaneous Math^* .

If you can't stand the inmates, get out of the asylum and leave it for those who can tolerate gibbering idiots.

* Assuming the mods are doing their job.

2015-01-24, 03:25	#57
LaurV Romulan Interpreter Jun 2011 Thailand 258B₁₆ Posts	Lkooing to the "more info" tree on the fdb, tohse two are konwn from 2013, but tehy were used recnetly to gerenate ohter bgiger cmopsoite nubmers with over three hnurded dgiits by repetealdy mulplitying them with tewtnysveen dgiits pirmes, lsat one two dyas ago. So, it smees he is aslo fldooing the db with siht... It may be tmie for a new logner Last fiddled with by LaurV on 2015-01-24 at 03:26

2015-01-25, 01:18	#59
storflyt32 Feb 2013 2×229 Posts	Oh, yes! Thanks for calling me an asshole, Mr. Silverman. Maybe it shows up in the food I am eating. Numbers are not supposed to be hiding any secrets alone. They are either prime or composite. If they happen to be composite, it is because they happen to be the product of two or more factors which are supposed to be prime. The amount of different numbers are supposed to be almost without limit. Consider infinity in this case which becomes a number that has no meaningful definition. The more numbers you start factorizing, the more factors it becomes. RSA-768 is such a number. It became factored but it could well have been left unfinished and been used in a certificate instead. For a single computer this number definitely stands its position, at least when comparing with slightly smaller number that are almost as difficult and not being factored yet. Am I supposed to be doing this just for fun, or is it still something that I am possible able to learn by doing this? Consider a textbook. The author is giving examples. At the end in each lecture he or she leaves an example for the reader as an exercise. Which is showing that there is always something around that you do not know about which has to be tried out. Last fiddled with by storflyt32 on 2015-01-25 at 01:20

2015-01-25, 18:32	#63
storflyt32 Feb 2013 2×229 Posts	This question for you. You certainly already know that I do not bother too much about codes and secrets, but rather am having an interest in numbers only. I happened to stumble across a quite good factor here a little while ago. The Yafu factorization software as you well know does not divide two numbers correctly at all times. Like trying to divide 7 with 3, I get 2 as the answer. For an even bigger number the returned answer may be something else in between. The result I get becomes an approximation instead if such is the case. But I next tried dividing this number from the C617 which is representing RSA-2048. The number I got was an even one which therefore was divided by 2. Just using ecm instead should go for the same. The interesting thing is that the number I get next is also a prime factor. The two factors are quite a bit different when it comes to their individual sizes. Because this did not end up being the correct factors, I may very well be in for a new complete cycle again. Or did I perhaps stumble across something this time? Apparently multiplying the two factors alone did not help very much here. Last fiddled with by storflyt32 on 2015-01-25 at 18:39

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2015-01-24, 20:43	#58
storflyt32 Feb 2013 2·229 Posts	http://factordb.com/index.php?id=1100000000744870056 How did this one come up? Was it perhaps the result of two different factorizarions?

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2015-01-25, 01:45	#61
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2015-01-25, 19:19	#64
Batalov "Serge" Mar 2008 Phi(4,2^7658614+1)/2 3⁶×13 Posts	You stumbled with your left foot across your right foot, man. This (masochistic self-humiliation of yours) has got to stop. Your postings make people's eyes and brains bleed. Every time they come in this thread (if they haven't yet learned their lesson to simply never visit it), they want a minute of their life back. But they can't. There is no refund. Let's start with 24 hours for you to think. Next time it will be a week.