25 → 5² → Quarter Century

Raman · 2013-04-06, 15:14

25. b3 → [STRIKE][COLOR=Black]25...cxb3[/COLOR][/STRIKE] 25...Be6
25. a4 → 25...a6 / 25...Bd7

25. h4 → 25...exf4
25. h3 → 25...exf4

25. Bf3 → 25...exf4 / 25...Bf5[STRIKE][COLOR=Black] / 25...a6 / 25...Bd7[/COLOR][/STRIKE]
25. Bc6 → 25...exf4 / 25...Bf5 / 25...a6 / 25...Bd7

Raman · 2013-04-06, 15:33

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science_man_88 · 2013-04-08, 20:59

they did Kg3 what can we do back.

LaurV · 2013-04-09, 06:43

[QUOTE=science_man_88;336486]they did Kg[B][COLOR=Red]2[/COLOR][/B] what can we do back.[/QUOTE]

You know my answer: [B]exf4[/B].

Their move still keeps exf4 in the books for a while, despite the fact that it is a bit too late now, we lost a tempo with that b5, they are already with the king out of link, and can concentrate better in counterattack (they have the "sente" now, as a Go player would say).

In fact they force it "a bit" now, due they took the king out of the link, stating clear, "[I]see? we want to take your pawn in e5![/I]". Fortunately for us, they CANNOT take the pawn in e5 right now (assuming we move something else), because then we beat it with the bishop, we bring that bishop in the center, forming a "great wall" with the one behind, and the f column is open to our rook, therefore his king will be insulated on the side, an [B]excellent[/B] position for us. Also, they can't exactly push to f5. If they push, for example 25...Rd6, 26.f5,gxf5, now they are in deep sh!t because no place to move the bishop and moreover, those two pawns sustain each other till transformation, or he has to give big wood for them.

Those being said, we are not really forced to capture the pawn. We can think about something else too (like Rd6 in the example above, which forbids the white bishop to attack the pawns from the back in c6. Some other "good" continuation may be 25...Rf7 or a6. Also, Bg4 or Bf5 will force a draw (they have eternal check after exchange, in f5, or after we exchange the horse in e2, and if they don't exercise it, then we either transform or check them mate, so they will have to go for eternal check in this situation).

science_man_88 · 2013-04-10, 00:47

[QUOTE=LaurV;336524]You know my answer: [B]exf4[/B].

Their move still keeps exf4 in the books for a while, despite the fact that it is a bit too late now, we lost a tempo with that b5, they are already with the king out of link, and can concentrate better in counterattack (they have the "sente" now, as a Go player would say).

In fact they force it "a bit" now, due they took the king out of the link, stating clear, "[I]see? we want to take your pawn in e5![/I]". Fortunately for us, they CANNOT take the pawn in e5 right now (assuming we move something else), because then we beat it with the bishop, we bring that bishop in the center, forming a "great wall" with the one behind, and the f column is open to our rook, therefore his king will be insulated on the side, an [B]excellent[/B] position for us. Also, they can't exactly push to f5. If they push, for example 25...Rd6, 26.f5,gxf5, now they are in deep sh!t because no place to move the bishop and moreover, those two pawns sustain each other till transformation, or he has to give big wood for them.

Those being said, we are not really forced to capture the pawn. We can think about something else too (like Rd6 in the example above, which forbids the white bishop to attack the pawns from the back in c6. Some other "good" continuation may be 25...Rf7 or a6. Also, Bg4 or Bf5 will force a draw (they have eternal check after exchange, in f5, or after we exchange the horse in e2, and if they don't exercise it, then we either transform or check them mate, so they will have to go for eternal check in this situation).[/QUOTE]

yeah I'll agree with it if the knight takes it then we can capture.

science_man_88 · 2013-04-13, 23:37

is anything happening ? or was it submitted and I didn't notice ?

Raman · 2013-04-14, 19:27

25. h4 → 25...exf4 [STRIKE]25...Bh3+[/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bh3+[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a6[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a5[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bd7[/COLOR][/STRIKE]
25. h3 → [STRIKE]25...exf4[/STRIKE] 25...Bxh3+ [COLOR=LemonChiffon][STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bh3+[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a6[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a5[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bd7[/COLOR][/STRIKE]

25. a3 → [COLOR=LemonChiffon][STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bh3+[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a6[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a5[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bd7[/COLOR][/STRIKE]
25...exf4
25. b4 → [STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]25...[/COLOR][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bh3+[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a6[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a5[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bd7[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]
[COLOR=Red] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=Red][STRIKE][/COLOR][COLOR=Red]cxb3ep[/STRIKE][/COLOR][COLOR=White]
[/COLOR]25...[COLOR=White][COLOR=Black]exf4[/COLOR][/COLOR]

[B]25. Kg2 →[/B] [COLOR=LemonChiffon][STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bh3+[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a6[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a5[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bd7[/COLOR][/STRIKE]
[B] 25...[/B][B]exf4

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Raman · 2013-04-15, 05:28

Black's twenty fifth move
[QUOTE=Batalov;337145]Here's a friendly reminder to the Pirates.[/QUOTE]
[B] 25. Kg2
[/B][B]→[/B]
[B]25...[/B][B]exf4[/B]?:question:

Raman · 2013-04-15, 06:54

Black's twenty fifth move
[QUOTE=Batalov;337145]Here's a friendly reminder to the Pirates.[/QUOTE][B]
25. Kg2
[/B][B]→[/B][B]
25...[/B][B]exf4[/B]?:question:

Raman · 2013-04-16, 07:54

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Raman · 2013-04-16, 20:51

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2013-04-06, 15:14	#1
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 1257₁₀ Posts	25 → 5² → Quarter Century 25. b3 → [STRIKE][COLOR=Black]25...cxb3[/COLOR][/STRIKE] 25...Be6 25. a4 → 25...a6 / 25...Bd7 25. h4 → 25...exf4 25. h3 → 25...exf4 25. Bf3 → 25...exf4 / 25...Bf5[STRIKE][COLOR=Black] / 25...a6 / 25...Bd7[/COLOR][/STRIKE] 25. Bc6 → 25...exf4 / 25...Bf5 / 25...a6 / 25...Bd7

2013-04-06, 15:33	#2
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3×419 Posts	→ XXV → 10² ÷ 4 → 10² ÷ 2² → [QUOTE=Raman;336270]part of full [COLOR=White]for the[/COLOR] fulfill fully enough [SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][STRIKE][COLOR=White]r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r[/COLOR][/STRIKE][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/QUOTE][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][STRIKE][COLOR=White].[/COLOR][/STRIKE][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP][/SUP]

2013-04-09, 06:43	#4
LaurV Romulan Interpreter "name field" Jun 2011 Thailand 41·251 Posts	[QUOTE=science_man_88;336486]they did Kg[B][COLOR=Red]2[/COLOR][/B] what can we do back.[/QUOTE] You know my answer: [B]exf4[/B]. Their move still keeps exf4 in the books for a while, despite the fact that it is a bit too late now, we lost a tempo with that b5, they are already with the king out of link, and can concentrate better in counterattack (they have the "sente" now, as a Go player would say). In fact they force it "a bit" now, due they took the king out of the link, stating clear, "[I]see? we want to take your pawn in e5![/I]". Fortunately for us, they CANNOT take the pawn in e5 right now (assuming we move something else), because then we beat it with the bishop, we bring that bishop in the center, forming a "great wall" with the one behind, and the f column is open to our rook, therefore his king will be insulated on the side, an [B]excellent[/B] position for us. Also, they can't exactly push to f5. If they push, for example 25...Rd6, 26.f5,gxf5, now they are in deep sh!t because no place to move the bishop and moreover, those two pawns sustain each other till transformation, or he has to give big wood for them. Those being said, we are not really forced to capture the pawn. We can think about something else too (like Rd6 in the example above, which forbids the white bishop to attack the pawns from the back in c6. Some other "good" continuation may be 25...Rf7 or a6. Also, Bg4 or Bf5 will force a draw (they have eternal check after exchange, in f5, or after we exchange the horse in e2, and if they don't exercise it, then we either transform or check them mate, so they will have to go for eternal check in this situation). Last fiddled with by LaurV on 2013-04-09 at 06:46

2013-04-14, 19:27	#7
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3·419 Posts	25. h4 → 25...exf4 [STRIKE]25...Bh3+[/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bh3+[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a6[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a5[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bd7[/COLOR][/STRIKE] 25. h3 → [STRIKE]25...exf4[/STRIKE] 25...Bxh3+ [COLOR=LemonChiffon][STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bh3+[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a6[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a5[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bd7[/COLOR][/STRIKE] 25. a3 → [COLOR=LemonChiffon][STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bh3+[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a6[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a5[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bd7[/COLOR][/STRIKE] 25...exf4 25. b4 → [STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]25...[/COLOR][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bh3+[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a6[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a5[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bd7[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [COLOR=Red] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=Red][STRIKE][/COLOR][COLOR=Red]cxb3ep[/STRIKE][/COLOR][COLOR=White] [/COLOR]25...[COLOR=White][COLOR=Black]exf4[/COLOR][/COLOR] [B]25. Kg2 →[/B] [COLOR=LemonChiffon][STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bh3+[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a6[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]a5[/COLOR][/STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon] [STRIKE]25...[/STRIKE][/COLOR][STRIKE][COLOR=LemonChiffon]Bd7[/COLOR][/STRIKE] [B] 25...[/B][B]exf4 [/B][COLOR=Black]Sometimes it is [/COLOR][COLOR=Black]being to [/COLOR][COLOR=Black]be [/COLOR][COLOR=Black]be always be ever be being to be good enough, done for the [COLOR=White]r r r [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=White]r[/COLOR][COLOR=Black] leaving thereby handing over opinions on to for the [COLOR=White]r r r r[/COLOR] other people[/COLOR][COLOR=Yellow][COLOR=Black]occasionally rarely, not frequently, not often[/COLOR][COLOR=LemonChiffon], not always, not never, not ever[/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=LemonChiffon], not everytime[/COLOR][COLOR=LemonChiffon], not never[/COLOR][COLOR=LemonChiffon]ytime[/COLOR] Last fiddled with by Raman on 2013-04-14 at 19:40 Reason: occasionally rarely, not frequently, not often, not always, not never, not ever, not everytime, not neverytime

2013-04-15, 05:28	#8
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3×419 Posts	Black's move XXV Black's twenty fifth move [QUOTE=Batalov;337145]Here's a friendly reminder to the Pirates.[/QUOTE] [B] 25. Kg2 [/B][B]→[/B] [B]25...[/B][B]exf4[/B]?:question:

2013-04-08, 20:59	#3
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dartmouth NS 10000100001101₂ Posts	they did Kg3 what can we do back.

2013-04-10, 00:47	#5
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dartmouth NS 210D₁₆ Posts	[QUOTE=LaurV;336524]You know my answer: [B]exf4[/B]. Their move still keeps exf4 in the books for a while, despite the fact that it is a bit too late now, we lost a tempo with that b5, they are already with the king out of link, and can concentrate better in counterattack (they have the "sente" now, as a Go player would say). In fact they force it "a bit" now, due they took the king out of the link, stating clear, "[I]see? we want to take your pawn in e5![/I]". Fortunately for us, they CANNOT take the pawn in e5 right now (assuming we move something else), because then we beat it with the bishop, we bring that bishop in the center, forming a "great wall" with the one behind, and the f column is open to our rook, therefore his king will be insulated on the side, an [B]excellent[/B] position for us. Also, they can't exactly push to f5. If they push, for example 25...Rd6, 26.f5,gxf5, now they are in deep sh!t because no place to move the bishop and moreover, those two pawns sustain each other till transformation, or he has to give big wood for them. Those being said, we are not really forced to capture the pawn. We can think about something else too (like Rd6 in the example above, which forbids the white bishop to attack the pawns from the back in c6. Some other "good" continuation may be 25...Rf7 or a6. Also, Bg4 or Bf5 will force a draw (they have eternal check after exchange, in f5, or after we exchange the horse in e2, and if they don't exercise it, then we either transform or check them mate, so they will have to go for eternal check in this situation).[/QUOTE] yeah I'll agree with it if the knight takes it then we can capture.

2013-04-13, 23:37	#6
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dartmouth NS 8,461 Posts	is anything happening ? or was it submitted and I didn't notice ?

2013-04-15, 06:54	#9
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3×419 Posts	Black's move XXV Black's twenty fifth move [QUOTE=Batalov;337145]Here's a friendly reminder to the Pirates.[/QUOTE][B] 25. Kg2 [/B][B]→[/B][B] 25...[/B][B]exf4[/B]?:question:

2013-04-16, 07:54	#10
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3×419 Posts	One of those above mentioned copies, below, have been moved on to its own , by using someone own , from among within main thread's own posting , within own its own into this own place own that way , but that which way away, why so thus, therefore, own , , , over thereby , , own , , , , , , Last fiddled with by xilman on 2013-04-16 at 14:51 Reason: Made more easily readable.

2013-04-16, 20:51	#11
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3·419 Posts	One of those above mentioned copies, below, have been moved on to its own , by using someone own , from among within main thread's own posting , within own its own into this own place own that way , but that which way away, why so thus, therefore, own , , , over thereby , , own , , , , , , Last fiddled with by xilman on 2013-04-17 at 09:26 Reason: Render legible

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