पहले ही से ही सही, और अब तो ... तो ऐसा है, तो इस प्रकार है, और क् - 23

Raman · 2013-03-13, 15:13

[QUOTE=henryzz;333176]Kxf1[/QUOTE]
.

Dubslow · 2013-03-13, 15:30

LaurV said elsewhere that trading the bishops leads to a draw, so... Bc8?

LaurV · 2013-03-13, 15:30

Hm... That's bad, I somehow hoped they will take the bishop... :razz:
They have at least one guy there who can play chess...
We can still force a draw with some of those moves on the poll. I did not find any one which could bring us a clear victory, like for the case when they would take the bishop first... Still digging, but we are into it for a long game now... Saving our bishop seems best. Putting it in a6 means to make it inactive, putting it in a8 they will exchange and then our rook is insulated and will need some maneuvers to come back to the game. It is either Bd5 or Bc8, but I don't know which. Now is late here, I will have a deeper look next days.

Raman · 2013-03-13, 15:58

I requested to delete older post version...
Within, into newer thread / posted poll version, I added 23...exf4

I recall LaurV forcing win against me, towards black side, as follows as
exf4 and then later on, sacrificing knight, [COLOR=White]right now and then afterwards, [/COLOR]
after white side taking black side's light square bishop[COLOR=White] certainly got captured [/COLOR]
by making use of the[COLOR=White], for the [/COLOR]
white side's light coloured bishop,
then onwards promoting pawn.

Not sure, if in case,
whether, it would be [COLOR=White]not[/COLOR]
possible enough in order to promote pawn without losing knight quite directly ... as such
As since... as they would have for the surity, furthermore one additional move, extra for the tempo gaining line... Bg2... Kf2 as white's side one move for the surity... not costly enough... not quite directly expensive enough for the penalty...

The title name fits in well ... as well as... ... as follows as...
Title name for the Tamil film involving number 23
Recently released, latest viewed, modern film's title name[COLOR=White] viewed, [/COLOR]
Translates to
Torture ruler... they do trouble us rather
for the 23. Kxf1 move instead of the 23. Bxb7 line
side game clearly played as follows as
Cleanly tested out trialed off[COLOR=White] r r
Trailed lagging enough
As follows as
As such , as since , as ...[/COLOR]

Raman · 2013-03-13, 17:37

I, for one, will be still voting for the 23...Bxe4
As yet, I do believe that furthermore the captures, lesser the number of pieces remaining onto board, lesser the barrier burden,
increased peace in order to promote our own pawn, by making usage of the
for the, this way route technique... [COLOR=white]via
[/COLOR]
Still, as yet, there are being, in to be plenty of pieces remaining onto board, in order to force a draw via perpetual pieces capture taking... route way techniques... [COLOR=white]via
[/COLOR]
Let this opinion, at least merit / gain minimum of the / for the one vote, already[COLOR=White] r r[/COLOR]

[COLOR=White]move line
side game played

way route technique... via[/COLOR]

Raman · 2013-03-13, 20:10

23...[SIZE=5]♗[/SIZE]xe4 24. [SIZE=5]♕[SIZE=2]xe[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4 [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5]♙[/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]exf[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=2]25.[/SIZE] [/SIZE][SIZE=5]♘[SIZE=2]x[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4 [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5]♖[SIZE=2]x[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4+ [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]26.[/SIZE] [/SIZE][SIZE=5]♕[SIZE=2]x[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4 [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5]♖[/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]8

science_man_88 · 2013-03-14, 01:40

[QUOTE=LaurV;333185]Hm... That's bad, I somehow hoped they will take the bishop... :razz:
They have at least one guy there who can play chess...
We can still force a draw with some of those moves on the poll. I did not find any one which could bring us a clear victory, like for the case when they would take the bishop first... Still digging, but we are into it for a long game now... Saving our bishop seems best. Putting it in a6 means to make it inactive, putting it in a8 they will exchange and then our rook is insulated and will need some maneuvers to come back to the game. It is either Bd5 or Bc8, but I don't know which. Now is late here, I will have a deeper look next days.[/QUOTE]

I'm thinking capture the pawn if they reply with the take they can be checked,even protecting the knight doesn't help from then I think since we can move the pawn forcing the knight to move or get captured by the pawn if we capture them they go in check, but I'll look at some of the others as well. a capture of the bishop can lead to an original check but as you say a draw likely.

Raman · 2013-03-14, 13:27

[COLOR=Gray][B]23...[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=YellowGreen][B][SIZE=5]♗[/SIZE]xe4[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Gray][B]24.[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=SeaGreen][B][SIZE=5]♕[SIZE=2]xe[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4 [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5]♙[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR][SIZE=5][COLOR=SeaGreen][B][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]exf[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4[/SIZE][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Gray][B][SIZE=2]25.[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [/SIZE][B][STRIKE][SIZE=5][COLOR=Red]♘[SIZE=2]x[/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/STRIKE][/B][STRIKE][SIZE=5][B][SIZE=5][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][SIZE=5][SIZE=2][B][COLOR=Red]4[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/STRIKE][COLOR=SeaGreen][B][SIZE=5]♖[SIZE=2]x[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4+ [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][COLOR=Gray][SIZE=2]26.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=5]♕[SIZE=2]x[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4 [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5]♖[/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]8[/B][/COLOR]
:tu: [SIZE=3][B] [COLOR=DarkOrange]Sets[/COLOR][COLOR=Magenta] out [/COLOR][COLOR=MediumTurquoise]a [/COLOR][COLOR=Blue]trap [/COLOR][COLOR=Plum]!!
[SIZE=3]
[COLOR=DarkOrchid] :question: Taking Pieces For The Capture[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Plum][SIZE=3][SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Plum][SIZE=3][COLOR=DarkOrchid][B][SIZE=3] Side[COLOR=White] [SIZE=3]Certainly[/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=3][COLOR=White]
[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Plum][SIZE=3][SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Plum][SIZE=3][COLOR=White][SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Plum][SIZE=3][COLOR=DarkOrchid] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]:no:[SIZE=3] [/SIZE]Into This Own Place[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][COLOR=White][B][SIZE=3][SIZE=3][B][SIZE=3][SIZE=3][B][SIZE=3][SIZE=3][B][SIZE=3], [/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=White][B]Within That Own Process, It Onto Them, They To Be Being, From Among Within, Into Onto, It Is Being This, That Way, Route Thing And Then Stuff Up Down[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][B]
:exclaim: [SIZE=3][COLOR=Blue]Warning Sign / Alert Signal[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]

[SIZE=3][B][COLOR=SeaGreen]Green Alert - Safer Enough Side[/COLOR][/B]
[B][COLOR=Olive]Yellow Alert - Being Undecided Enough[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Plum][SIZE=3][COLOR=DarkOrange]Orange Alert - Risky / Dangerous Direction[/COLOR]
[/SIZE][/COLOR][COLOR=Red]Red Alert - Fault / Blunder Mistake[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]

[SIZE=3][COLOR=Magenta][B] Route Quite Directly That Way[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]

Xyzzy · 2013-03-14, 14:42

holy crap, i just had a siezure

:help:

Raman · 2013-03-14, 15:04

இம்சை அரசன் - 23 ஆம் புலிகேசி[QUOTE=science_man_88;333264]I'm thinking capture the pawn if they reply with the take they can be checked,even protecting the knight doesn't help from then I think since we can move the pawn forcing the knight to move or get captured by the pawn if we capture them they go in check, but I'll look at some of the others as well. a capture of the bishop can lead to an original check but as you say a draw likely.[/QUOTE]

for the 23...exf4 is not being playable

at least for the time being

already by right now itself,

and then ...

Why so, thus, and up down, then ...

Raman · 2013-03-17, 04:53

Are other people not being happier enough in order to play with me?
That way, count me out, off.

and then I will certainly quit from this following side game
Game goes onto well, as smoothly enough without me,
by making usage exiting for the myself of [COLOR=White]r

[COLOR=Black]Goodbye from[/COLOR][/COLOR] this following side game

View Poll Results: Black's twenty third move
23...Bxe4	1	25.00%
23...Ba6	0	0%
23...Bd5	0	0%
23...Bc8	2	50.00%
23...Rf7	0	0%
23...Rd7	0	0%
23...Ba8	0	0%
23...Rb8	0	0%
23...Rd5	0	0%
23...exf4	1	25.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 4. You may not vote on this poll

2013-03-13, 15:13	#1
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3·419 Posts	पहले ही से ही सही, और अब तो ... तो ऐसा है, तो इस प्रकार है, और क् - 23 [QUOTE=henryzz;333176]Kxf1[/QUOTE] .

2013-03-13, 15:30	#3
LaurV Romulan Interpreter "name field" Jun 2011 Thailand 24063₈ Posts	Hm... That's bad, I somehow hoped they will take the bishop... :razz: They have at least one guy there who can play chess... We can still force a draw with some of those moves on the poll. I did not find any one which could bring us a clear victory, like for the case when they would take the bishop first... Still digging, but we are into it for a long game now... Saving our bishop seems best. Putting it in a6 means to make it inactive, putting it in a8 they will exchange and then our rook is insulated and will need some maneuvers to come back to the game. It is either Bd5 or Bc8, but I don't know which. Now is late here, I will have a deeper look next days. Last fiddled with by LaurV on 2013-03-13 at 15:46

2013-03-13, 15:58	#4
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3·419 Posts	I requested to delete older post version... Within, into newer thread / posted poll version, I added 23...exf4 I recall LaurV forcing win against me, towards black side, as follows as exf4 and then later on, sacrificing knight, [COLOR=White]right now and then afterwards, [/COLOR] after white side taking black side's light square bishop[COLOR=White] certainly got captured [/COLOR] by making use of the[COLOR=White], for the [/COLOR] white side's light coloured bishop, then onwards promoting pawn. Not sure, if in case, whether, it would be [COLOR=White]not[/COLOR] possible enough in order to promote pawn without losing knight quite directly ... as such As since... as they would have for the surity, furthermore one additional move, extra for the tempo gaining line... Bg2... Kf2 as white's side one move for the surity... not costly enough... not quite directly expensive enough for the penalty... The title name fits in well ... as well as... ... as follows as... Title name for the Tamil film involving number 23 Recently released, latest viewed, modern film's title name[COLOR=White] viewed, [/COLOR] Translates to Torture ruler... they do trouble us rather for the 23. Kxf1 move instead of the 23. Bxb7 line side game clearly played as follows as Cleanly tested out trialed off[COLOR=White] r r Trailed lagging enough As follows as As such , as since , as ...[/COLOR] Last fiddled with by Raman on 2013-03-13 at 16:34

2013-03-13, 17:37	#5
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3·419 Posts	I, for one, will be still voting for the 23...Bxe4 As yet, I do believe that furthermore the captures, lesser the number of pieces remaining onto board, lesser the barrier burden, increased peace in order to promote our own pawn, by making usage of the for the, this way route technique... [COLOR=white]via [/COLOR] Still, as yet, there are being, in to be plenty of pieces remaining onto board, in order to force a draw via perpetual pieces capture taking... route way techniques... [COLOR=white]via [/COLOR] Let this opinion, at least merit / gain minimum of the / for the one vote, already[COLOR=White] r r[/COLOR] [COLOR=White]move line side game played way route technique... via[/COLOR] Last fiddled with by Raman on 2013-03-13 at 18:09

2013-03-13, 15:30	#2
Dubslow Basketry That Evening! "Bunslow the Bold" Jun 2011 40<A<43 -89<O<-88 1110000110101₂ Posts	LaurV said elsewhere that trading the bishops leads to a draw, so... Bc8?

2013-03-13, 20:10	#6
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3×419 Posts	23...[SIZE=5]♗[/SIZE]xe4 24. [SIZE=5]♕[SIZE=2]xe[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4 [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5]♙[/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]exf[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=2]25.[/SIZE] [/SIZE][SIZE=5]♘[SIZE=2]x[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4 [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5]♖[SIZE=2]x[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4+ [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]26.[/SIZE] [/SIZE][SIZE=5]♕[SIZE=2]x[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4 [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5]♖[/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]8

2013-03-14, 01:40	#7
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dartmouth NS 8,461 Posts	[QUOTE=LaurV;333185]Hm... That's bad, I somehow hoped they will take the bishop... :razz: They have at least one guy there who can play chess... We can still force a draw with some of those moves on the poll. I did not find any one which could bring us a clear victory, like for the case when they would take the bishop first... Still digging, but we are into it for a long game now... Saving our bishop seems best. Putting it in a6 means to make it inactive, putting it in a8 they will exchange and then our rook is insulated and will need some maneuvers to come back to the game. It is either Bd5 or Bc8, but I don't know which. Now is late here, I will have a deeper look next days.[/QUOTE] I'm thinking capture the pawn if they reply with the take they can be checked,even protecting the knight doesn't help from then I think since we can move the pawn forcing the knight to move or get captured by the pawn if we capture them they go in check, but I'll look at some of the others as well. a capture of the bishop can lead to an original check but as you say a draw likely.

2013-03-14, 13:27	#8
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3×419 Posts	[COLOR=Gray][B]23...[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=YellowGreen][B][SIZE=5]♗[/SIZE]xe4[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Gray][B]24.[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=SeaGreen][B][SIZE=5]♕[SIZE=2]xe[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4 [/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5]♙[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR][SIZE=5][COLOR=SeaGreen][B][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]exf[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4[/SIZE][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=Gray][B][SIZE=2]25.[/SIZE][/B][/COLOR] [/SIZE][B][STRIKE][SIZE=5][COLOR=Red]♘[SIZE=2]x[/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/STRIKE][/B][STRIKE][SIZE=5][B][SIZE=5][COLOR=Red][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][SIZE=5][SIZE=2][B][COLOR=Red]4[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/STRIKE][COLOR=SeaGreen][B][SIZE=5]♖[SIZE=2]x[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4+ [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][COLOR=Gray][SIZE=2]26.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=5]♕[SIZE=2]x[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]4 [/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][SIZE=5]♖[/SIZE][SIZE=5][SIZE=5][SIZE=2]f[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]8[/B][/COLOR] :tu: [SIZE=3][B] [COLOR=DarkOrange]Sets[/COLOR][COLOR=Magenta] out [/COLOR][COLOR=MediumTurquoise]a [/COLOR][COLOR=Blue]trap [/COLOR][COLOR=Plum]!! [SIZE=3] [COLOR=DarkOrchid] :question: Taking Pieces For The Capture[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Plum][SIZE=3][SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Plum][SIZE=3][COLOR=DarkOrchid][B][SIZE=3] Side[COLOR=White] [SIZE=3]Certainly[/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=3][COLOR=White] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Plum][SIZE=3][SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Plum][SIZE=3][COLOR=White][SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Plum][SIZE=3][COLOR=DarkOrchid] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]:no:[SIZE=3] [/SIZE]Into This Own Place[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE][SIZE=3][COLOR=White][B][SIZE=3][SIZE=3][B][SIZE=3][SIZE=3][B][SIZE=3][SIZE=3][B][SIZE=3], [/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/B][/SIZE][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR][COLOR=White][B]Within That Own Process, It Onto Them, They To Be Being, From Among Within, Into Onto, It Is Being This, That Way, Route Thing And Then Stuff Up Down[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][B] :exclaim: [SIZE=3][COLOR=Blue]Warning Sign / Alert Signal[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=SeaGreen]Green Alert - Safer Enough Side[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=Olive]Yellow Alert - Being Undecided Enough[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=Plum][SIZE=3][COLOR=DarkOrange]Orange Alert - Risky / Dangerous Direction[/COLOR] [/SIZE][/COLOR][COLOR=Red]Red Alert - Fault / Blunder Mistake[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][COLOR=Magenta][B] Route Quite Directly That Way[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] Last fiddled with by Raman on 2013-03-14 at 13:52

2013-03-14, 14:42	#9
Xyzzy Aug 2002 20722₈ Posts	holy crap, i just had a siezure :help:

2013-03-14, 15:04	#10
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3·419 Posts	வந்து போய் இம்சை அரசன் - 23 ஆம் புலிகேசி[QUOTE=science_man_88;333264]I'm thinking capture the pawn if they reply with the take they can be checked,even protecting the knight doesn't help from then I think since we can move the pawn forcing the knight to move or get captured by the pawn if we capture them they go in check, but I'll look at some of the others as well. a capture of the bishop can lead to an original check but as you say a draw likely.[/QUOTE] for the 23...exf4 is not being playable at least for the time being already by right now itself, and then ... Why so, thus, and up down, then ...

2013-03-17, 04:53	#11
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 2351₈ Posts	Are other people not being happier enough in order to play with me? That way, count me out, off. and then I will certainly quit from this following side game Game goes onto well, as smoothly enough without me, by making usage exiting for the myself of [COLOR=White]r [COLOR=Black]Goodbye from[/COLOR][/COLOR] this following side game