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Raman · 2013-02-20, 14:12

The following move line will rather go ahead onto, as such...

As since...
Moves...

19...Nd5 20. Rbd1 Nxe3 21. Rxd8 Raxd8 22. Qc1 Nxf1 23. Bxb7 Nd2 24. Qe1

Lines...

Perhaps probably...
Potentially possibly...

Quite directly...

Dubslow · 2013-02-20, 15:48

[QUOTE=Raman;330188]Who had changed my own avatar?
Please, kindly show such action against Stargate38
Not onto me![/QUOTE]
Heh :smile:
I did rather like the hex counting :razz:
[QUOTE=Raman;330189]The following move line will rather go ahead onto, as such...

As since...
Moves...

19...Nd5 20. Rbd1 Nxe3 21. Rxd8 Raxd8 22. Qc1 Nxf1 23. Bxb7 Nd2 24. Qe1

Lines...

Perhaps probably...
Potentially possibly...

Quite directly...[/QUOTE]
I agree it's likely, though with 22 I don't think we necessarily have to take the rook..

science_man_88 · 2013-02-21, 13:27

I think if they capture the knight we can capture with the queen only if they don't do Ng3 if they do that it wrecks the checkmate possibility if that weren't possible for that move to occur we'd have a checkmate coming to them.

Raman · 2013-02-21, 17:51

IMHO, [COLOR=White]r[/COLOR] of course [COLOR=White]r[/COLOR], being moving other than 20. Rbd1 line, will certainly make them to be doomed forever...
[COLOR=White]rather within[/COLOR]
They might be at least having lost this following game, already, against 19...Bxe4 move line
We may be holding out, carrying onto decisive advantage[COLOR=White], ratio factor that way
away, back again returned repeatedly[/COLOR]
Why so, thus?[COLOR=White]
always[/COLOR]

LaurV · 2013-02-22, 01:55

I am ready to play 19...Bxe4 as white against you as black in a separate game and I show you that you can't get more then a draw after the exchange, and if you don't push the queen exchange after that (with Qd3) and let me with the white queen in the center of the board, then, you might even lose. If you want to do it, then you create a new thread in this subforum.

Related to the current game, we already did the move, and I don't see why you insist too much for the past, or why are you so scared of Rd1 move. Are you upset that you were outvoted, or what? First, you should concentrate on the next moves. We may analyze the mistakes done in the past, AFTER the game ends. And second, Rbd1 [B]is a bad move[/B]. My opinion. They can do much better than this move. Rbd1 may be picked as a good move by some chess engines, because white takes black queen, but black can do wonders after the exchange, with two rooks or with 3 pieces against the queen. Same for Bc1, it may look a very good move for some chess engine, but a human will never block his rook and separate its pieces in such a way. Still, they have Qd2, Rf3, which are better then Rbd1 (Rfd1 is totally foolish!). They may do Rbd1 if they get greedy to take our queen, and this might be our chance to win this game... hopefully...

science_man_88 · 2013-02-22, 02:01

[QUOTE=LaurV;330405]I am ready to play 19...Bxe4 as white against you as black in a separate game and I show you that you can't get more then a draw after the exchange, and if you don't push the queen exchange after that (with Qd3) and let me with the white queen in the center of the board, then, you might even lose. If you want to do it, then you create a new thread in this subforum.

Related to the current game, we already did the move, and I don't see why you insist too much for the past, or why are you so scared of Rd1 move. Are you upset that you were outvoted, or what? First, you should concentrate on the next moves. We may analyze the mistakes done in the past, AFTER the game ends. And second, Rbd1 [B]is a bad move[/B]. My opinion. They can do much better than this move. Rbd1 may be picked as a good move by some chess engines, because white takes black queen, but black can do wonders after the exchange, with two rooks or with 3 pieces against the queen. Same for Bc1, it may look a very good move for some chess engine, but a human will never block his rook and separate its pieces in such a way. Still, they have Qd2, Rf3, which are better then Rbd1 (Rfd1 is totally foolish!). They may do Rbd1 if they get greedy to take our queen, and this might be our chance to win this game... hopefully...[/QUOTE]

if we did play online against each other I'd show you what I mean.

LaurV · 2013-02-22, 05:24

[QUOTE=science_man_88;330406]if we did play online against each other I'd show you what I mean.[/QUOTE]
I know exactly what you mean, I have studied this position a lot, even in my sleep :smile:. My post was entirely addressed to Raman, who is still clinging on that bishop move wich we did not do. That is gone. Bye bye. Sayonara. Move on. Think about the next move, not about the past, we can not take moves back. Obviously this last sentences are also addressed to him.

Raman · 2013-02-22, 08:00

[QUOTE=science_man_88;330318]I think if they capture the knight we can capture with the queen only if they don't do Ng3 if they do that it wrecks the checkmate possibility if that weren't possible for that move to occur we'd have a checkmate coming to them.[/QUOTE]

Many of the thought process that you write are being too obvious or
trivial enough, quite directly...

20. Bxd5+ move line is being extremely bad enough...
20...Qxd5, 21. Ng3 and then go ahead within 21...exf4 move, line
rather afterwards, towards.

White bishop-knight fork against black pawn.

[QUOTE=LaurV;330405](Rfd1 is totally foolish!).[/QUOTE]

Why so that 20. Rfd1 move is being extremely bad enough than against that incomparable 20. Rbd1 line?

Thus, what does it compare within for the 20. Bd2 move, as such,
as since?

2013-02-21, 13:27	#14
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dartmouth NS 210D₁₆ Posts	I think if they capture the knight we can capture with the queen only if they don't do Ng3 if they do that it wrecks the checkmate possibility if that weren't possible for that move to occur we'd have a checkmate coming to them. Last fiddled with by science_man_88 on 2013-02-21 at 13:32

2013-02-21, 17:51	#15
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 2351₈ Posts	IMHO, [COLOR=White]r[/COLOR] of course [COLOR=White]r[/COLOR], being moving other than 20. Rbd1 line, will certainly make them to be doomed forever... [COLOR=White]rather within[/COLOR] They might be at least having lost this following game, already, against 19...Bxe4 move line We may be holding out, carrying onto decisive advantage[COLOR=White], ratio factor that way away, back again returned repeatedly[/COLOR] Why so, thus?[COLOR=White] always[/COLOR] Last fiddled with by Raman on 2013-02-21 at 18:05

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2013-02-20, 15:48	#13
Dubslow Basketry That Evening! "Bunslow the Bold" Jun 2011 40<A<43 -89<O<-88 1C35₁₆ Posts	[QUOTE=Raman;330188]Who had changed my own avatar? Please, kindly show such action against Stargate38 Not onto me![/QUOTE] Heh :smile: I did rather like the hex counting :razz: [QUOTE=Raman;330189]The following move line will rather go ahead onto, as such... As since... Moves... 19...Nd5 20. Rbd1 Nxe3 21. Rxd8 Raxd8 22. Qc1 Nxf1 23. Bxb7 Nd2 24. Qe1 Lines... Perhaps probably... Potentially possibly... Quite directly...[/QUOTE] I agree it's likely, though with 22 I don't think we necessarily have to take the rook..

2013-02-22, 01:55	#16
LaurV Romulan Interpreter "name field" Jun 2011 Thailand 10100000110011₂ Posts	I am ready to play 19...Bxe4 as white against you as black in a separate game and I show you that you can't get more then a draw after the exchange, and if you don't push the queen exchange after that (with Qd3) and let me with the white queen in the center of the board, then, you might even lose. If you want to do it, then you create a new thread in this subforum. Related to the current game, we already did the move, and I don't see why you insist too much for the past, or why are you so scared of Rd1 move. Are you upset that you were outvoted, or what? First, you should concentrate on the next moves. We may analyze the mistakes done in the past, AFTER the game ends. And second, Rbd1 [B]is a bad move[/B]. My opinion. They can do much better than this move. Rbd1 may be picked as a good move by some chess engines, because white takes black queen, but black can do wonders after the exchange, with two rooks or with 3 pieces against the queen. Same for Bc1, it may look a very good move for some chess engine, but a human will never block his rook and separate its pieces in such a way. Still, they have Qd2, Rf3, which are better then Rbd1 (Rfd1 is totally foolish!). They may do Rbd1 if they get greedy to take our queen, and this might be our chance to win this game... hopefully...

2013-02-22, 02:01	#17
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dartmouth NS 8,461 Posts	[QUOTE=LaurV;330405]I am ready to play 19...Bxe4 as white against you as black in a separate game and I show you that you can't get more then a draw after the exchange, and if you don't push the queen exchange after that (with Qd3) and let me with the white queen in the center of the board, then, you might even lose. If you want to do it, then you create a new thread in this subforum. Related to the current game, we already did the move, and I don't see why you insist too much for the past, or why are you so scared of Rd1 move. Are you upset that you were outvoted, or what? First, you should concentrate on the next moves. We may analyze the mistakes done in the past, AFTER the game ends. And second, Rbd1 [B]is a bad move[/B]. My opinion. They can do much better than this move. Rbd1 may be picked as a good move by some chess engines, because white takes black queen, but black can do wonders after the exchange, with two rooks or with 3 pieces against the queen. Same for Bc1, it may look a very good move for some chess engine, but a human will never block his rook and separate its pieces in such a way. Still, they have Qd2, Rf3, which are better then Rbd1 (Rfd1 is totally foolish!). They may do Rbd1 if they get greedy to take our queen, and this might be our chance to win this game... hopefully...[/QUOTE] if we did play online against each other I'd show you what I mean.

2013-02-22, 05:24	#18
LaurV Romulan Interpreter "name field" Jun 2011 Thailand 41×251 Posts	[QUOTE=science_man_88;330406]if we did play online against each other I'd show you what I mean.[/QUOTE] I know exactly what you mean, I have studied this position a lot, even in my sleep :smile:. My post was entirely addressed to Raman, who is still clinging on that bishop move wich we did not do. That is gone. Bye bye. Sayonara. Move on. Think about the next move, not about the past, we can not take moves back. Obviously this last sentences are also addressed to him.

2013-02-22, 08:00	#19
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 1257₁₀ Posts	[QUOTE=science_man_88;330318]I think if they capture the knight we can capture with the queen only if they don't do Ng3 if they do that it wrecks the checkmate possibility if that weren't possible for that move to occur we'd have a checkmate coming to them.[/QUOTE] Many of the thought process that you write are being too obvious or trivial enough, quite directly... 20. Bxd5+ move line is being extremely bad enough... 20...Qxd5, 21. Ng3 and then go ahead within 21...exf4 move, line rather afterwards, towards. White bishop-knight fork against black pawn. [QUOTE=LaurV;330405](Rfd1 is totally foolish!).[/QUOTE] Why so that 20. Rfd1 move is being extremely bad enough than against that incomparable 20. Rbd1 line? Thus, what does it compare within for the 20. Bd2 move, as such, as since?