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Stargate38 · 2013-06-14, 12:47

@Raman: WHAT IN THE ENITRE UNIVERSE ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY?! "please case caseztuchz or ofr offr ffr fr r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r o of off ff f " AND "in order onto to be, being"?!

I tested both for primality in other number bases and the 1st one is divisible by 3 in base-36, the second one is even in base-94, so I know they aren't primes! And the "r r r r r..." part looks like the base-36 value of 27/35 (0.RRRRRRRR...) or the base-94 value of 9/31 (0 rrrrrrrr ...) with spaces between the r's.

These are the values of both, converted from base-94 (with factorization):

Code:

9229034254143714739413019349677680627511145159135510368641343986676593071985054886147035554337167951927082341572553706602325425955=3^3*5*C128 
1654508829205659828115952011274920=2^3*5*7*5908960104305927957556971468839

Still trying to factor the 1st number. Why did you give us random multiples of 3 that, when converted from base-94, look like gibberish? WHAT does "in order onto be, being" mean exactly?!

kladner · 2013-06-14, 15:11

Wow, Stargate! That is the deepest analysis yet for this material.

I still tend toward the "performance art" interpretation I posted earlier. Another way of putting this might be "an advanced, and fairly successful exercise in Chain Yanking and Cage Rattling."

Stargate38 · 2013-06-17, 13:53

Also, "tuchz" is prime in base-36 (50124743). If only I could figure out why he's putting "in case case35 50124743" and 53/94 repeatedly on this site, then I might be able to translate it. I'll look for patterns.

His post: http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthr...206#post343206
My current guess:

Code:

(1654508829205659828115952011274920⁴*9229034254143714739413019349677680627511145159135510368641343986676593071985054886147035554337167951927082341572553706602325425955⁴)*9229034254143714739413019349677680627511145159135510368641343986676593071985054886147035554337167951927082341572553706602325425955≥(922903425414371473941301934967768062751114515913551036864134398667659307198505488614703555433716795192708234157255370660-9229034254143714739413019349677680627511145159135510368641343986676593071985054886147035554337167951927082341572553706602325425955*6^{9229034254143714739413019349677680627511145159135510368641343986676593071985054886147035554337167951927082341572553706602325425955}-9229034254143714739413019349677680627511145159135510368641343986676593071985054886147035554337167951927082341572553706602325425955⁴*1654508829205659828115952011274920±146579995743558712163465281509650807245480*1654508829205659828115952011274920+1654508829205659828115952011274920⁵)

Note that the inequality holds, although it subtracts a huge number (greater than a googolplex). I can, however, calculate the last digit: both sides end in 0.

gd_barnes · 2013-06-21, 08:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stargate38

Note that the inequality holds, although it subtracts a huge number (greater than a googolplex). I can, however, calculate the last digit: both sides end in 0.

All of the left side's 783 digits can be easily calculated.

Code:

501715647351473698679290347645065578938622706260532032683475648334175864891285717970165839947614613182469670416454367388784988563585957185514109848331258897185658454493679688326976020029580115487205537014080142802341136296553937302442584283235039303287061280477896956323311007534284261888220161771586345439365413134814922523500626666106970389929748564132258065184059682959472998114181226260353268700468970030375528415937332433890105941200387570760489167691074864006571429266330293261045094604191510911623150650927566166345604027161277324258379514044226170928207659494199503645186164184302344624763912750098273777957234236635052032007351034075617496360635272408014195249014730990257217937844081101443063547715448171238809657642946726335494969724888346572752126161744173564728000000000
=
2^12 * 3^15 * 5^9 * 7^4 * 5908960104305927957556971468839^4 * 68363216697360849921577921108723560203786260438040817545491436938345133866555962119607670772867910755015424752389286715572780933^5

Note that the last factor is a C128 with a smallest factor likely >= 20 digits.

Stargate38 · 2013-06-21, 13:01

5908960104305927957556971468839 must have come from the "on in order onto to be, being" part. That C128 comes from the "In case caseztuchz..." part. I also noticed that Raman's last name is "Tuch", which appears in the larger string (as "caseztuchz"). I need to multiply the whole string by 93 to see the actual value of the form (k*94ⁿ-x)/93, which is (in base-94):

Code:

o>,/H]?'H]?'H{F-=5H|2/:B/:0B\0B\B""""""""""""""""""""""""/":8;""""r

Notice the "H]?'H]?'H" part, meaning that if multiplied by 94⁴-1, it will produce a string of double quotes or 0's, depending on the figures that come right after it. In base-10 (as an equation):

Code:

70354549109858324767311736658994953977425150072505998122848425236*94^34-1719561893743956041

Did you notice that, in my previous post, I interpret each line as either a number or mathematical operator, depending on the amount of sense it makes? For example: I interpreted the "Dear Moderators" and "If in case that whether if whenever if you think that or feeling that I am being nagging you repeatedly, continuously, persistently with in repeated demands, and then" parts as multiplication, "feel free enough done or," as a ≥ symbol, "on to banning me of out off mersenneforum", "it is being on to that way, away, back again...", and "one full year. I don't mind it at all... will not that" as subtraction, "for the time period duration of six months or on to" as 6ⁿ with n being the next line, and "that which this I suggesti" as ±. I interpreted the rest as base-94 numbers, thus making the equation. Smart, isn't it?

NBtarheel_33 · 2013-06-22, 06:46

So what is the upshot of all of this? Raman is a savant, communicating eternal, life-affirming wisdom in base-94? It still looks like gibberish nonsense to me...

Xyzzy · 2013-06-22, 07:24

Right now some poor guy at the NSA has a really big headache.

2013-06-14, 12:47	#67
Stargate38 "Daniel Jackson" May 2011 14285714285714285714 3×13×17 Posts	I don't understand you, Raman! What does "in case casetuchz..." mean? @Raman: WHAT IN THE ENITRE UNIVERSE ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY?! "please case caseztuchz or ofr offr ffr fr r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r r o of off ff f " AND "in order onto to be, being"?! I tested both for primality in other number bases and the 1st one is divisible by 3 in base-36, the second one is even in base-94, so I know they aren't primes! And the "r r r r r..." part looks like the base-36 value of 27/35 (0.RRRRRRRR...) or the base-94 value of 9/31 (0 rrrrrrrr ...) with spaces between the r's. These are the values of both, converted from base-94 (with factorization): Code: 9229034254143714739413019349677680627511145159135510368641343986676593071985054886147035554337167951927082341572553706602325425955=3^35C128 1654508829205659828115952011274920=2^357*5908960104305927957556971468839 Still trying to factor the 1st number. Why did you give us random multiples of 3 that, when converted from base-94, look like gibberish? WHAT does "in order onto be, being" mean exactly?!

2013-06-21, 13:01	#71
Stargate38 "Daniel Jackson" May 2011 14285714285714285714 3×13×17 Posts	Explanation of the inequality in my previous post 5908960104305927957556971468839 must have come from the "on in order onto to be, being" part. That C128 comes from the "In case caseztuchz..." part. I also noticed that Raman's last name is "Tuch", which appears in the larger string (as "caseztuchz"). I need to multiply the whole string by 93 to see the actual value of the form (k94ⁿ-x)/93, which is (in base-94): Code: o>,/H]?'H]?'H{F-=5H\|2/:B/:0B\0B\B""""""""""""""""""""""""/":8;""""r Notice the "H]?'H]?'H" part, meaning that if multiplied by 94⁴-1, it will produce a string of double quotes or 0's, depending on the figures that come right after it. In base-10 (as an equation): Code: 7035454910985832476731173665899495397742515007250599812284842523694^34-1719561893743956041 Did you notice that, in my previous post, I interpret each line as either a number or mathematical operator, depending on the amount of sense it makes? For example: I interpreted the "Dear Moderators" and "If in case that whether if whenever if you think that or feeling that I am being nagging you repeatedly, continuously, persistently with in repeated demands, and then" parts as multiplication, "feel free enough done or," as a ≥ symbol, "on to banning me of out off mersenneforum", "it is being on to that way, away, back again...", and "one full year. I don't mind it at all... will not that" as subtraction, "for the time period duration of six months or on to" as 6ⁿ with n being the next line, and "that which this I suggesti" as ±. I interpreted the rest as base-94 numbers, thus making the equation. Smart, isn't it? Last fiddled with by Stargate38 on 2013-06-21 at 13:04 Reason: adding some info and a title

2013-06-22, 06:46	#72
NBtarheel_33 "Nathan" Jul 2008 Maryland, USA 5·223 Posts	So what is the upshot of all of this? Raman is a savant, communicating eternal, life-affirming wisdom in base-94? It still looks like gibberish nonsense to me... Last fiddled with by NBtarheel_33 on 2013-06-22 at 06:46

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2013-06-14, 15:11	#68
kladner "Kieren" Jul 2011 In My Own Galaxy! 2·3·1,693 Posts	Wow, Stargate! That is the deepest analysis yet for this material. I still tend toward the "performance art" interpretation I posted earlier. Another way of putting this might be "an advanced, and fairly successful exercise in Chain Yanking and Cage Rattling."

2013-06-22, 07:24	#73
Xyzzy "Mike" Aug 2002 2⁵×257 Posts	Right now some poor guy at the NSA has a really big headache.