Black Move S1 (=s0^2-2=14) - Page 2

Dubslow · 2013-01-10, 14:26

So... e5 then?

science_man_88 · 2013-01-10, 14:31

[QUOTE=Dubslow;324279]So... e5 then?[/QUOTE]

I'll agree to it. see where it leads us.

LaurV · 2013-01-12, 16:50

So, are we going to move, or what? :P

Dubslow · 2013-01-12, 19:58

Whoops, sorry. sm_88 seemed kind of hesitant, and I sometimes feel like we'e been trampling him, so then I hesitated to move, and then I forgot to move :razz:

science_man_88 · 2013-01-16, 12:51

[QUOTE=Dubslow;324516]Whoops, sorry. sm_88 seemed kind of hesitant, and I sometimes feel like we'e been trampling him, so then I hesitated to move, and then I forgot to move :razz:[/QUOTE]

don't worry even if you did it wouldn't be the first time in my life.

Raman · 2013-03-09, 13:15

I will vote for 14...fxe4 move
My own subsequent preferrences will be with going ahead afterwards, after with these following moves, 14...Qd7 moves, 14...Qc7 moves,
They will keep with, retaining thereby advantage we have towards us, by themselves.

I observed you went ahead with 14...e5 move, this move, it gives away slight advantage we may have within us, back again, that way.
Which is being my own suggestion to go ahead with Qc7 moves, Qd7 moves, as soon as possibly, earlier enough, please support with black bishop from b7 square... I would personally prefer with Qd7 move than with Qc7 move, it protects b5 square against white knight's intrusion move; gives us way to attack with black queen into h3 square from within d7 square, once f5 square black pawn has been moved, way has been cleared up, down that way, all at once,
As usually, casually

By themselves

Raman · 2013-03-11, 18:23

[QUOTE=science_man_88;324273][QUOTE=LaurV;324217]Assuming you play white, what would you respond to e5?[/QUOTE]
I could do fxe5 if Bxe5 comes into things Bf4 can be an attempted sacrifice to get that other bishop off the board ( it would be protected by the knight).[/QUOTE]15. c4
move line [COLOR=white]side game[/COLOR]
1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. f4 d6 6. d3 e6 7. Nf3 Nge7 8. Be3 Nd4 9. O-O O-O
10. Rb1 b6 11. Ne2 Nxf3+ 12. Bxf3 Bb7 13. g4 f5 14. g5 e5 15. c4
[ATTACH]9516[/ATTACH]

Raman · 2013-03-11, 21:11

[QUOTE=science_man_88;324273][QUOTE=LaurV;324217]Assuming you play white, what would you respond to e5?[/QUOTE]I could do fxe5 if Bxe5 comes into things Bf4 can be an attempted sacrifice to get that other bishop off the board ( it would be protected by the knight).[/QUOTE]15. c3
move line [COLOR=white]side game[/COLOR]
1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. f4 d6 6. d3 e6 7. Nf3 Nge7 8. Be3 Nd4 9. O-O O-O
10. Rb1 b6 11. Ne2 Nxf3+ 12. Bxf3 Bb7 13. g4 f5 14. g5 e5 15. c3 [ATTACH]9517[/ATTACH]

Raman · 2013-03-13, 10:28

[QUOTE=science_man_88;324273][QUOTE=LaurV;324217]Assuming you play white, what would you respond to e5?[/QUOTE]
I could do fxe5 if Bxe5 comes into things Bf4 can be an attempted sacrifice to get that other bishop off the board ( it would be protected by the knight).[/QUOTE]
15. c3
move line [COLOR=white]side game[/COLOR]

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. f4 d6 6. d3 e6 7. Nf3 Nge7 8. Be3 Nd4 9. O-O O-O
10. Rb1 b6 11. Ne2 Nxf3+ 12. Bxf3 Bb7 13. g4 f5 14. g5 e5 15. c3[ATTACH]9529[/ATTACH]

Raman · 2013-03-13, 10:29

[QUOTE=science_man_88;324273][QUOTE=LaurV;324217]Assuming you play white, what would you respond to e5?[/QUOTE]
I could do fxe5 if Bxe5 comes into things Bf4 can be an attempted sacrifice to get that other bishop off the board ( it would be protected by the knight).[/QUOTE]
15. c4
move line [COLOR=white]side game[/COLOR]

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. f4 d6 6. d3 e6 7. Nf3 Nge7 8. Be3 Nd4 9. O-O O-O
10. Rb1 b6 11. Ne2 Nxf3+ 12. Bxf3 Bb7 13. g4 f5 14. g5 e5 15. c4
[ATTACH]9527[/ATTACH]

LaurV · 2013-03-13, 11:28

I have already seen your posts. If you want to stress the fact that I missed c3/c4 moves, then yes, I missed them, my attention was on e4/f4 pawns. I am sorry :blush:. Both c3/c4 are good moves for white, their major mistake was not c3, but the queen to b3, which allowed us to push c4, and they lost the center and made that queen ineffective up to the end of the game (or well, at least up to now). I don't want to turn back to re-play the game, at least not while it is still in progress. Just for your inner peace, c4 is stronger because forbids us to push d5, but in the same time is weaker because it let the path of our bishop free, and allows us to place a new knight in d4 after the exchange in the middle. So,[B] I don't know which of c3 or c4 is better[/B], but certainly they are both good, and certainly they are both better then what I was anticipating at that time. Or say, c3 move was somehow the most (or the only) unexpected move in this game (considering the fact that Mr Palliser helped us a lot with the opening).

2013-03-09, 13:15	#17
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 10011101001₂ Posts	I will vote for 14...fxe4 move My own subsequent preferrences will be with going ahead afterwards, after with these following moves, 14...Qd7 moves, 14...Qc7 moves, They will keep with, retaining thereby advantage we have towards us, by themselves. I observed you went ahead with 14...e5 move, this move, it gives away slight advantage we may have within us, back again, that way. Which is being my own suggestion to go ahead with Qc7 moves, Qd7 moves, as soon as possibly, earlier enough, please support with black bishop from b7 square... I would personally prefer with Qd7 move than with Qc7 move, it protects b5 square against white knight's intrusion move; gives us way to attack with black queen into h3 square from within d7 square, once f5 square black pawn has been moved, way has been cleared up, down that way, all at once, As usually, casually By themselves Last fiddled with by Dubslow on 2013-03-09 at 20:10 Reason: dude. not cool.

2013-03-11, 18:23	#18
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3·419 Posts	[QUOTE=science_man_88;324273][QUOTE=LaurV;324217]Assuming you play white, what would you respond to e5?[/QUOTE] I could do fxe5 if Bxe5 comes into things Bf4 can be an attempted sacrifice to get that other bishop off the board ( it would be protected by the knight).[/QUOTE]15. c4 move line [COLOR=white]side game[/COLOR] 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. f4 d6 6. d3 e6 7. Nf3 Nge7 8. Be3 Nd4 9. O-O O-O 10. Rb1 b6 11. Ne2 Nxf3+ 12. Bxf3 Bb7 13. g4 f5 14. g5 e5 15. c4 [ATTACH]9516[/ATTACH] Attached Thumbnails

2013-03-11, 21:11	#19
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3·419 Posts	[QUOTE=science_man_88;324273][QUOTE=LaurV;324217]Assuming you play white, what would you respond to e5?[/QUOTE]I could do fxe5 if Bxe5 comes into things Bf4 can be an attempted sacrifice to get that other bishop off the board ( it would be protected by the knight).[/QUOTE]15. c3 move line [COLOR=white]side game[/COLOR] 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. f4 d6 6. d3 e6 7. Nf3 Nge7 8. Be3 Nd4 9. O-O O-O 10. Rb1 b6 11. Ne2 Nxf3+ 12. Bxf3 Bb7 13. g4 f5 14. g5 e5 15. c3 [ATTACH]9517[/ATTACH] Attached Thumbnails

2013-03-13, 10:28	#20
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3×419 Posts	[QUOTE=science_man_88;324273][QUOTE=LaurV;324217]Assuming you play white, what would you respond to e5?[/QUOTE] I could do fxe5 if Bxe5 comes into things Bf4 can be an attempted sacrifice to get that other bishop off the board ( it would be protected by the knight).[/QUOTE] 15. c3 move line [COLOR=white]side game[/COLOR] 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. f4 d6 6. d3 e6 7. Nf3 Nge7 8. Be3 Nd4 9. O-O O-O 10. Rb1 b6 11. Ne2 Nxf3+ 12. Bxf3 Bb7 13. g4 f5 14. g5 e5 15. c3[ATTACH]9529[/ATTACH] Attached Thumbnails

2013-03-13, 10:29	#21
Raman Noodles "Mr. Tuch" Dec 2007 Chennai, India 3·419 Posts	[QUOTE=science_man_88;324273][QUOTE=LaurV;324217]Assuming you play white, what would you respond to e5?[/QUOTE] I could do fxe5 if Bxe5 comes into things Bf4 can be an attempted sacrifice to get that other bishop off the board ( it would be protected by the knight).[/QUOTE] 15. c4 move line [COLOR=white]side game[/COLOR] 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. g3 g6 4. Bg2 Bg7 5. f4 d6 6. d3 e6 7. Nf3 Nge7 8. Be3 Nd4 9. O-O O-O 10. Rb1 b6 11. Ne2 Nxf3+ 12. Bxf3 Bb7 13. g4 f5 14. g5 e5 15. c4 [ATTACH]9527[/ATTACH] Attached Thumbnails

2013-01-10, 14:26	#12
Dubslow Basketry That Evening! "Bunslow the Bold" Jun 2011 40<A<43 -89<O<-88 3·29·83 Posts	So... e5 then?

2013-01-10, 14:31	#13
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dartmouth NS 8,461 Posts	[QUOTE=Dubslow;324279]So... e5 then?[/QUOTE] I'll agree to it. see where it leads us.

2013-01-12, 16:50	#14
LaurV Romulan Interpreter "name field" Jun 2011 Thailand 41·251 Posts	So, are we going to move, or what? :P

2013-01-12, 19:58	#15
Dubslow Basketry That Evening! "Bunslow the Bold" Jun 2011 40<A<43 -89<O<-88 7221₁₀ Posts	Whoops, sorry. sm_88 seemed kind of hesitant, and I sometimes feel like we'e been trampling him, so then I hesitated to move, and then I forgot to move :razz:

2013-01-16, 12:51	#16
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dartmouth NS 8,461 Posts	[QUOTE=Dubslow;324516]Whoops, sorry. sm_88 seemed kind of hesitant, and I sometimes feel like we'e been trampling him, so then I hesitated to move, and then I forgot to move :razz:[/QUOTE] don't worry even if you did it wouldn't be the first time in my life.

2013-03-13, 11:28	#22
LaurV Romulan Interpreter "name field" Jun 2011 Thailand 24063₈ Posts	I have already seen your posts. If you want to stress the fact that I missed c3/c4 moves, then yes, I missed them, my attention was on e4/f4 pawns. I am sorry :blush:. Both c3/c4 are good moves for white, their major mistake was not c3, but the queen to b3, which allowed us to push c4, and they lost the center and made that queen ineffective up to the end of the game (or well, at least up to now). I don't want to turn back to re-play the game, at least not while it is still in progress. Just for your inner peace, c4 is stronger because forbids us to push d5, but in the same time is weaker because it let the path of our bishop free, and allows us to place a new knight in d4 after the exchange in the middle. So,[B] I don't know which of c3 or c4 is better[/B], but certainly they are both good, and certainly they are both better then what I was anticipating at that time. Or say, c3 move was somehow the most (or the only) unexpected move in this game (considering the fact that Mr Palliser helped us a lot with the opening). Last fiddled with by LaurV on 2013-03-13 at 11:31

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Black's 15th move	Dubslow	Game 1 - ♚♛♝♞♜♟ - Shaolin Pirates	13	2013-03-09 13:34
Black's ∞-th move	LaurV	Game 1 - ♚♛♝♞♜♟ - Shaolin Pirates	10	2012-11-30 20:50
Black's sixth move	Raman	Game 1 - ♚♛♝♞♜♟ - Shaolin Pirates	14	2012-11-09 23:33
Black's third move	Raman	Game 1 - ♚♛♝♞♜♟ - Shaolin Pirates	4	2012-10-20 19:47
Black's first move	Raman	Game 1 - ♚♛♝♞♜♟ - Shaolin Pirates	12	2012-10-07 19:11