A theism, a theism, my kingdom for a theism - Page 48

Batalov · 2013-07-01, 17:11

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Originally Posted by Brian-E

Does Russian distinguish between "of" and "from"?

"Secularism" is one of my favourite words. To me secularism encompasses both freedom of religion and freedom from it, giving everyone the freedom to believe whatever they like but no right to impose those beliefs on other people.

Russian language, yes. (Simple use of prepositions.)

The Russian state, probably not. (not to mention the infamous Pussy Riot case)

xilman · 2013-07-01, 19:15

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Originally Posted by Brian-E

That is indeed a subtle and astute statement, especially coming from someone who was grateful for the "platform to declare Jesus is real" as you note.

As in

Code:

      REAL JESUS
      INTEGER GOD
      COMMON GOD, LOVE

you mean, thereby overwriting the default types?

Brian-E · 2013-07-01, 19:32

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Originally Posted by xilman

As in

Code:

      REAL JESUS
      INTEGER GOD
      COMMON GOD, LOVE

you mean, thereby overwriting the default types?

Something like that. But I prefer

Code:

FLOAT(JESUS)

because he walked on water.

cheesehead · 2013-07-01, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Brian-E

"Secularism" is one of my favourite words. To me secularism encompasses both freedom of religion and freedom from it, giving everyone the freedom to believe whatever they like but no right to impose those beliefs on other people.

But many religiously-inclined folks, especially U.S. fundamentalists, would use secularism to denote an exclusion/intolerance of religion, not freedom of/from religion or indifference to/tolerance of religion.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/secularism
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/secularism

cheesehead · 2013-07-01, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Brian-E

English quite often seems to have subtleties that other languages lack.

... probably a consequence of the history (multiple invaders, speaking different languages) of its island of origin.

Celtic, plus some Latin from the Roman invaders, plus Norse from the Viking invaders, plus German from the Saxon invaders, plus French from the Norman invaders.

firejuggler · 2013-07-01, 21:49

*insert dirty joke about invader*

chalsall · 2013-07-01, 22:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian-E

Something like that. But I prefer

Code:

FLOAT(JESUS)

because he walked on water.

Canadians have a joke...

We truly believe that Jesus walked on water...

We just assumed it was during winter....

TheMawn · 2013-07-02, 01:19

Very well quoted. English has certain of the subtleties but make no mistake, other languages have the same problem when translated to English.

De loin, elles sont belles, mais elles sont loin d'être belles. It translates to From afar, they're pretty but they're far from pretty, which again feels rather clumsy. It literally rolls right off the tongue in french, however.

chappy · 2013-07-04, 18:59

http://www.pewforum.org/growth-of-th...n-society.aspx

Batalov · 2013-07-04, 19:34

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Originally Posted by chappy

Growth of the Nonreligious // Many Say: Trend is Bad for American Society

"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich." ~ Napoleon Bonaparte

"Growth of the Nonreligious // Many Would Say: Trend is Bad for American Society". Well, obviously!

chalsall · 2013-07-04, 19:45

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Growth of the Nonreligious

Thank god!

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TheMawn May 2013 East. Always East. 3277₈ Posts	Very well quoted. English has certain of the subtleties but make no mistake, other languages have the same problem when translated to English. De loin, elles sont belles, mais elles sont loin d'être belles. It translates to From afar, they're pretty but they're far from pretty, which again feels rather clumsy. It literally rolls right off the tongue in french, however.

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chappy "Jeff" Feb 2012 St. Louis, Missouri, USA 13×89 Posts	http://www.pewforum.org/growth-of-th...n-society.aspx