A matter of PS - Page 2

Xyzzy · 2002-10-22, 01:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by smh

My experiance as a field engineer has learned me that a powersupply hardly cuases such problems. In three years i probably replaced 2 or 3 PSU for problems like this.

If you are a field engineer, you are dealing with a completely different level of hardware than common PeeCee parts... I work with a lot of Dell and Compaq stuff and *all* of it is high quality stuff... My Sun stuff is the same way...

However, on the other end of the scale is the $12 300W power supply... Trust me, I have replaced so many of these I have lost count...

BTW, that 235W power supply I alluded to above is a Compaq...

guido72 · 2002-10-22, 05:26

This time in "english". Or something quite (hope so) similar! (sorry once again!)
Hi all!
I think you all are right, but I'd put my 5 Cents for an incompatibility between the DDR stick and the MoBo. It is welknown that VIA KT333 is everything but problem-free (So I agree completely with Outinder). Nevertheless even the temp may play its role, but the fact that these errors happen immediately, that is with the cpu not too hot, make me wonder... The PSU is without any doubt important as well, as Mike says, but, once again, the likelyhood it is its fault is remote IMHO...
Regards

Deamiter · 2002-10-22, 06:35

Death to all crappy Power Supplies!!!!

(yeah... that's not even worth 2 cents, but deal with it :( )

lycorn · 2002-10-22, 07:46

ET_
What do you mean exactly by "fatal errors"?
You get OS messages and/or BSODs or just P95 errors?

ET_ · 2002-10-22, 11:34

First of all, Thank you to all! :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lycorn

What do you mean exactly by "fatal errors"?
You get OS messages and/or BSODs or just P95 errors?

"FATAL ERROR" is the message Prime95 shows before stopping, normally between 1 and 7 minutes from start.

Yes, I have a VIA KT333 chipset on my ASUS, and the RAM stick is from Samsung; Samsung is not among tested distributors in the ASUS MoBo manual.

Anyway I ordered a 400W new PSU and it will be in place by next week. If the problem persists, I'll go on changing RAM stick.

For the last question: I also ran K10, a program written by Jean Charles Meyrignac to check Euler sums of equal powers, and it seems to work just fine.
I also got a couple of GPFs and a crash while closing my Windows box.
mprime (RH 6.2) gives me errors as well.

I'll let you know how it goes :-)

Luigi

outlnder · 2002-10-22, 18:24

If possible, try a complete format and reinstall of your operating system.

I had a new 1.6A P4 and overclocked it to 2132. I installed the OS and continually got the same errors as you. After 2 days of part swapping, I reinstalled the OS without an overclock. Once I got all the updates and drivers installed, I put the overclock back on. It worked like a charm. And I've been running for 15 days with no problems.

ET_ · 2002-10-22, 19:28

Quote:

If possible, try a complete format and reinstall of your operating system.

I had a new 1.6A P4 and overclocked it to 2132.

Er... thanks outInder, the fact is I never overclocked my system...
Could it possibly be the same fault you got?

I don't think so.

Luigi

QuintLeo · 2002-10-23, 20:50

Is that 61C at no load? Does your MB read the temp from a thermistor or from the on-chip CPU diode?

If it's 61C Thermistor at no load, you need better cooling - you're probably going well over 65C at the surface of the CPU, which is out of spec for max temp on most Athlon models.

If it's 61C on-chip, you have a problem elsewhere.

ET_ · 2002-10-29, 10:46

Gotcha! :)

I lowered CAS from 2.5 to 2.0 and the system runs smoothly.

Now I'll kill the one who sold me DDR266 priced like DDR333. :D

Luigi

smh · 2002-10-29, 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by ET_

I lowered CAS from 2.5 to 2.0 and the system runs smoothly.

Lowerd CAS to solve a problem? Normally you should make the timings a bit higher to solve problems

2002-11-19, 09:10

Before you spend ANY money, make sure you have the absolute latest updates for your bios! I've seen this turn machines from jello on quicksand to rock, *especially* with high cpu load :)

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2002-10-22, 05:26	#13
guido72 Aug 2002 Rovereto (Italy) 3×53 Posts	This time in "english". Or something quite (hope so) similar! (sorry once again!) Hi all! I think you all are right, but I'd put my 5 Cents for an incompatibility between the DDR stick and the MoBo. It is welknown that VIA KT333 is everything but problem-free (So I agree completely with Outinder). Nevertheless even the temp may play its role, but the fact that these errors happen immediately, that is with the cpu not too hot, make me wonder... The PSU is without any doubt important as well, as Mike says, but, once again, the likelyhood it is its fault is remote IMHO... Regards

2002-10-22, 06:35	#14
Deamiter Sep 2002 3²×13 Posts	Death to all crappy Power Supplies!!!! (yeah... that's not even worth 2 cents, but deal with it :( )

2002-10-22, 07:46	#15
lycorn "GIMFS" Sep 2002 Oeiras, Portugal 2·7·113 Posts	ET_ What do you mean exactly by "fatal errors"? You get OS messages and/or BSODs or just P95 errors?

2002-10-22, 18:24	#17
outlnder Aug 2002 2×3×53 Posts	If possible, try a complete format and reinstall of your operating system. I had a new 1.6A P4 and overclocked it to 2132. I installed the OS and continually got the same errors as you. After 2 days of part swapping, I reinstalled the OS without an overclock. Once I got all the updates and drivers installed, I put the overclock back on. It worked like a charm. And I've been running for 15 days with no problems.

2002-10-23, 20:50	#19
QuintLeo Oct 2002 Lost in the hills of Iowa 2⁶×7 Posts	Is that 61C at no load? Does your MB read the temp from a thermistor or from the on-chip CPU diode? If it's 61C Thermistor at no load, you need better cooling - you're probably going well over 65C at the surface of the CPU, which is out of spec for max temp on most Athlon models. If it's 61C on-chip, you have a problem elsewhere.

2002-10-29, 10:46	#20
ET_ Banned "Luigi" Aug 2002 Team Italia 5·7·139 Posts	Gotcha! :) I lowered CAS from 2.5 to 2.0 and the system runs smoothly. Now I'll kill the one who sold me DDR266 priced like DDR333. :D Luigi

2002-11-19, 09:10	#22
shifted 3×17×31 Posts	Before you spend ANY money, make sure you have the absolute latest updates for your bios! I've seen this turn machines from jello on quicksand to rock, especially with high cpu load :)