The "100 mile high" Club! - Page 5

LaurV · 2012-09-01, 08:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by petrw1

You mean let me stay ahead. Have you checked lately

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Have you check the fact that I didn't report nothing for a while? I had no net in my house for a week, and I have about 300-400GHzDays accumulated on the pipe to report

. And chalsall "cheated" me of 60GHzDays of DC (because he was afraid I will overtake him, which happened anyhow!

), if you click on my name you will see I have 60 GHD more DC than shown in the top-DC list. The explanation is that I did some "private" DC assignment in the past, and Chris had to add it by hand, but he added to my DC credit in my individual report, and (wrongly) added to LL credit in the top-list. Now as a programmer, I still have no idea why the tables do not use the same source of data, but that is not my business. The God's ways are mysterious. The same discrepancy between my assignments, sometime my individual report show some numbers and the assignment list shows different numbers...
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chappy · 2012-09-06, 01:04

Little late to the thread, but I think the bar needs to be set pretty high, I've been doing this for a lot less than a year and I'm above 90% in all categories. (I'm probably also in the 90th percentile of assignments lost to crappy rebuilt Dell server failures.)

petrw1 · 2012-09-06, 04:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by chappy

Little late to the thread, but I think the bar needs to be set pretty high, I've been doing this for a lot less than a year and I'm above 90% in all categories. (I'm probably also in the 90th percentile of assignments lost to crappy rebuilt Dell server failures.)

Yeah ... 90's nothing to be ashamed of ... but the 98-100 can take a bit of work; some types more than others.

petrw1 · 2012-11-11, 05:56

However, I haven't stopped thinking about this project....
I have a few questions:
1. What is the "widely accepted" formula for calculating percentiles?
2. Do we really want to report percentiles?
2a. Or percent rankings (what George does)?
2b. Or do we want to report Top-X? i.e Top-10, Top-25? Top 100?
2c. Or ???
3. What is the cut off percent? Top-xx (We don't want the reports too big)
4. For Lifetime and YTD?
5. For all 6 categories or work (All, TF, P1, LL, DC, ECM, ECM-F)?
6. What do I use for sample size?
a. Total number of names on the list?
b. Number of names over 0 points? I believe this is to 0 to 3 decimal points.
c. Highest rank listed? I believe this is anyone truly over 0.

Attached is a sample from the Lifetime All report from about a week ago.
Might be kind of tiny....sorry.
Columns are:
-Ordinal Rank in column
-Member Name
-Total GhzDays
-% Rank as George computes it on your Summary (** 6. c.)
-Percentile as I understand it. (** 6. b.)
** In the last 2 columns the number on top is the sample size (ss) from 6. I used.

My formulas:
% rank: (ss-rank+1)/ss. Result is a percent.
Percentile: INT(100-(100*((rank-0.5)/ss)). Result is the integer percentile.

petrw1 · 2012-11-25, 23:06

I thought a better format might be a table like so:
Ordered more or less by #of G/S/B.
Gold might be 99th Percentile
Silver 95th -98th
Bronze 90th - 94th.

HOWEVER....names are NOT unique; muchly NOT so.
I looked at ALL names in the Life-Time all report.
There were over 16,000 entries.
Besides the obvious "ANONYMOUS" that appears about 2300 times; and by definition want to be excluded ...
there are over 300 other names that appear anywhere from 2 to 11 times for a total of 1100 other duplicates.
I didn't verify if any of these are currently in the G/S/B status but I can't rule out that they will be some day.

At the risk of excluding or falsely reporting some members I am at a loss for how to proceed...

Comments? Suggestions? Advice?

ATH · 2012-12-07, 05:58

Reached 92+% in all 6 categories. I'm happy with that, and I won't get to 100% unless I win the lottery or get a new job where I can run Prime95 on machines.

LaurV · 2012-12-07, 06:37

You won't be able to win 100% for ECM-F even if you win the lottery. Or... well, you have to buy that guy's account and join the user to your one. Or you can create 1000 user accounts and fake some ECM-F reports, give them a curve each, they will finish in few days, this way you lower the watermark, otherwise you need/have to be the first to have 100%, being second you get 99.3 that is rounded to 99.

"Fill in the yellow cells" version:

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(first table is what one need for some percentile, second is my current stats, last is the check/probe. So I can afford to lose 7 places on TF, but I have to gain 226 places on LL

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sdbardwick · 2012-12-09, 06:51

Actually, #6 in ECM will give 100%

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LaurV · 2012-12-09, 09:06

Hm.. if so, there is a calculus mistake on PrimeNet (up to now, my calculus matched exactly, I did not find any mistake). 6*100/1101 is 0.54xxxx, you need under 0.5 to be rounded in the first percentile, otherwise is rounded as 1. (i.e. you are 99.45xxx which is rounded as 99).

sdbardwick · 2013-03-04, 06:33

Hey Xyzzy, how about this? Yet Another Awards System

sdbardwick · 2013-05-02, 17:50

Not gonna last (it is getting too warm here with the extra space heaters), but 100% in 5 major categories (TF, P-1, LL, LL-D, ECM) :

2012-09-06, 01:04	#46
chappy "Jeff" Feb 2012 St. Louis, Missouri, USA 13·89 Posts	Little late to the thread, but I think the bar needs to be set pretty high, I've been doing this for a lot less than a year and I'm above 90% in all categories. (I'm probably also in the 90th percentile of assignments lost to crappy rebuilt Dell server failures.) Attached Thumbnails

2012-11-11, 05:56	#48
petrw1 1976 Toyota Corona years forever! "Wayne" Nov 2006 Saskatchewan, Canada 1001001000100₂ Posts	I know, I know, the clock is ticking....been busy. However, I haven't stopped thinking about this project.... I have a few questions: 1. What is the "widely accepted" formula for calculating percentiles? 2. Do we really want to report percentiles? 2a. Or percent rankings (what George does)? 2b. Or do we want to report Top-X? i.e Top-10, Top-25? Top 100? 2c. Or ??? 3. What is the cut off percent? Top-xx (We don't want the reports too big) 4. For Lifetime and YTD? 5. For all 6 categories or work (All, TF, P1, LL, DC, ECM, ECM-F)? 6. What do I use for sample size? a. Total number of names on the list? b. Number of names over 0 points? I believe this is to 0 to 3 decimal points. c. Highest rank listed? I believe this is anyone truly over 0. Attached is a sample from the Lifetime All report from about a week ago. Might be kind of tiny....sorry. Columns are: -Ordinal Rank in column -Member Name -Total GhzDays -% Rank as George computes it on your Summary ( 6. c.) -Percentile as I understand it. ( 6. b.) ** In the last 2 columns the number on top is the sample size (ss) from 6. I used. My formulas: % rank: (ss-rank+1)/ss. Result is a percent. Percentile: INT(100-(100*((rank-0.5)/ss)). Result is the integer percentile. Attached Thumbnails

2012-11-25, 23:06	#49
petrw1 1976 Toyota Corona years forever! "Wayne" Nov 2006 Saskatchewan, Canada 2²·7·167 Posts	I have an issue..... I thought a better format might be a table like so: Ordered more or less by #of G/S/B. Gold might be 99th Percentile Silver 95th -98th Bronze 90th - 94th. HOWEVER....names are NOT unique; muchly NOT so. I looked at ALL names in the Life-Time all report. There were over 16,000 entries. Besides the obvious "ANONYMOUS" that appears about 2300 times; and by definition want to be excluded ... there are over 300 other names that appear anywhere from 2 to 11 times for a total of 1100 other duplicates. I didn't verify if any of these are currently in the G/S/B status but I can't rule out that they will be some day. At the risk of excluding or falsely reporting some members I am at a loss for how to proceed... Comments? Suggestions? Advice? Attached Thumbnails

2012-12-07, 05:58	#50
ATH Einyen Dec 2003 Denmark 3⁵·13 Posts	Reached 92+% in all 6 categories. I'm happy with that, and I won't get to 100% unless I win the lottery or get a new job where I can run Prime95 on machines. Attached Thumbnails

2012-12-07, 06:37	#51
LaurV Romulan Interpreter Jun 2011 Thailand 7×1,373 Posts	You won't be able to win 100% for ECM-F even if you win the lottery. Or... well, you have to buy that guy's account and join the user to your one. Or you can create 1000 user accounts and fake some ECM-F reports, give them a curve each, they will finish in few days, this way you lower the watermark, otherwise you need/have to be the first to have 100%, being second you get 99.3 that is rounded to 99. "Fill in the yellow cells" version: (first table is what one need for some percentile, second is my current stats, last is the check/probe. So I can afford to lose 7 places on TF, but I have to gain 226 places on LL ) Last fiddled with by LaurV on 2012-12-07 at 06:39

2012-12-09, 06:51	#52
sdbardwick Aug 2002 North San Diego County 1255₈ Posts	Actually, #6 in ECM will give 100%

2012-12-09, 09:06	#53
LaurV Romulan Interpreter Jun 2011 Thailand 258B₁₆ Posts	Hm.. if so, there is a calculus mistake on PrimeNet (up to now, my calculus matched exactly, I did not find any mistake). 6*100/1101 is 0.54xxxx, you need under 0.5 to be rounded in the first percentile, otherwise is rounded as 1. (i.e. you are 99.45xxx which is rounded as 99).

2013-03-04, 06:33	#54
sdbardwick Aug 2002 North San Diego County 2AD₁₆ Posts	Hey Xyzzy, how about this? Yet Another Awards System

2013-05-02, 17:50	#55
sdbardwick Aug 2002 North San Diego County 685₁₀ Posts	Not gonna last (it is getting too warm here with the extra space heaters), but 100% in 5 major categories (TF, P-1, LL, LL-D, ECM) : Attached Thumbnails

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