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Old 2012-08-23, 09:31   #23
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Oh, finally we have a chemist in the house who will tell us what is wrong with this article, or maybe this one. (I am still trying to stay relevant to the topic, mind you. Personally, I am more of the whatever professional scientist, but I dabble in computational biology and statistical genetics, too. And a recovering chemical physist, too. But enough about me :-/ )
I read the NanoPutians paper shortly after it came out. Very clever, very amusing and nice synthetic chemistry to boot. I didn't find anything "wrong" with it at the time --- what makes you think it may be erroneous?

Actually, and if memory serves --- I don't now have a copy of the paper and it's not freely available to me --- there was one statement made which I questioned but couldn't prove to be wrong. It said something like molecular chemistry is the smallest possible scale for the synthesis of humanoid structures because anything smaller doesn't have the required mechanical properties. Or something like that; perhaps you could check for me.

Personally I suspect that nuclear chemistry could support comparable syntheses. At giga-g gravitational fields electron degeneracy pressure (i.e. that which keeps electronic chemistry working) is no longer up to the job and nucleon degeneracy pressure takes over. There is some theoretical justification for the proposal that nuclei could form bound structures through the exchange of valence neutrons. If this is the case there could well be the opportunity for artistic creativity. Unfortunately our present technological limits makes it rather difficult to perform meaningful experiments.

As for the other paper, I believe that the word "Pizda" is an anatomical term (I should check this some day --- posting purely from a vague recollection filed away under "general knowledge") in some language(s). A mischievous coinage, perhaps, but no more so than the celebrated synthesis of tetraphenylarsole a few decades ago when I was a practising chemist.


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Old 2012-08-23, 09:59   #24
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Ha ha, genial... can you talk Romanian? I wonder if they (especially the Iranians) had any Romanians in the team...

Didn't know about the stuff, I have to study that papers better :D

[This is very on topic!]
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Old 2012-08-23, 10:12   #25
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As for the other paper, I believe that the word "Pizda" is an anatomical term (I should check this some day --- posting purely from a vague recollection filed away under "general knowledge") in some language(s). A mischievous coinage, perhaps, but no more so than the celebrated synthesis of tetraphenylarsole a few decades ago when I was a practising chemist.
Ok, I checked it. I must have Czeched it a while back when working in Brno. My vague recollection was correct.


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Old 2012-08-23, 10:29   #26
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Ok, I checked it. I must have Czeched it a while back when working in Brno. My vague recollection was correct.
Indeed it was. The first title would be translated into Romanian (without forcing it in any way) into something like this (do not change the translation direction, it will cheat the bot!) and the "putian" part in the other papers is strongly related to this. I suspect Batalov can speak some Romanian
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Old 2012-08-23, 10:42   #27
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Indeed it was. The first title would be translated into Romanian (without forcing it in any way) into something like this (do not change the translation direction, it will cheat the bot!) and the "putian" part in the other papers is strongly related to this. I suspect Batalov can speak some Romanian
I suspect you are wrong wrt the -putian suffix. Lilliputian, from Swift's satirical novel, is extremely widely known and frequently used amongst English speakers globally. The slang term was new to me and, I suspect, not very widely known elsewhere.
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Indeed it was. The first title would be translated into Romanian (without forcing it in any way) into something like this (do not change the translation direction, it will cheat the bot!) and the "putian" part in the other papers is strongly related to this. I suspect Batalov can speak some Romanian
or Czech, which is where I learned the word? Or any of a range of Slavic languages, including Polish, Serbo-Croat and Slovene. His surname is a bit of a give away...

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While we're on the subject, research the Scunthorpe problem and why AOL was advised to change its name to Omerica On Line.


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Hint: A non-Indo-European national language of a European country, while we're discussing country matters ...

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Old 2012-08-23, 15:27   #30
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A program broadcast on the BBC some years ago displayed the view from an endoscope pointing at the cervix. The woman orgasmed after the man had ejaculated and the endoscope showed that the cervix repeated dipped into the pool of semen. It looked very similar to mammalian lips drinking.
Where you perhaps thinking about this?
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Where you perhaps thinking about this?
I was indeed. I mis-remembered the identity of the broadcaster, wrongly thinking it was the Beeb.

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I read the NanoPutians paper shortly after it came out. Very clever, very amusing and nice synthetic chemistry to boot. I didn't find anything "wrong" with it at the time --- what makes you think it may be erroneous?
Not really anything wrong with it (unless it was done with public funds).
The Dude Lebowski, though, might have found it offensive that the author "...treats objects like women, man!" (c)
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Oh, finally we have a chemist in the house who will tell us what is wrong with this article, or maybe this one.
Speaking of syntheses, if we combine the main themes from those papers, we might end up with a NanoPutain.

(Not to be confused with a molecular-scale Russian strongman, the NanoPutin).
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