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Old 2012-07-03, 03:59   #12
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As you can easily see, the post #8 is already a perfect illustration. While others answered ("I'm against all three points", "Why haven't you done #2 yet?" --> "see #1"), the post #8 was already changed to have not 3 but 5 points, as well as for utter convenience of following his train of thought #2 became #3.

I've seen boards where you simply cannot edit. Period.
One would think that users there would realize that they have to think what they want to say first, possibly edit in external editor and spell-check and only then post. But that's wishful thinking - they post as sloppy as ever. Therefore, some editing time is a good thing to have.

An aside note: not everyone is aware that while in the editing period, the poster can delete as well! Just enter "advanced edit", and there will be an option to delete. This is a useful tool when simult-crossposting happens and a message becomes redundant (and is not referred to yet; if it is already answered, it's best to leave it).

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Old 2012-07-03, 04:29   #13
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I've seen boards where you simply cannot edit. Period.
If we had our way there would be no editing. Just call us cranky or old-fashioned.

The fact that there is an hour limit is only because Ernst (ewmayer) lost a bet with Paul (xilman) that involved a pygmy goat, a bottle rocket and a pound of butter.

We bet on the wrong side. Lesson learned.

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Old 2012-07-03, 13:46   #14
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Only the ability to post multiple images within a single post, actually, is being the additional feature, which I would rather think that might be included. There is not going to be heavy penalty upon the merging for over this feature, down at all

Regarding the editing feature, if in case that someone thinks that significant thing needs to be added when the editing period frame comes to an end, expires away just simply itself , then he can be able to delete and then re-post the entire thing, so that he would be able to have furthermore tempo to be able to add more stuff thing.
some or otherwise in some certain cases alongby in order to re-post the whole entire post, thing, stuff newly thereby itself.

But, in my own opinion, I would rather think that it is being better to have the edit period frame, a bit longer, from 2 to 3 hours.

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Reason (Optional) :-> Please remove this reason feature. The purpose someone edits his own posts is being only in order to add the furthermore new points, ideas, actually, or otherwise including them to correct, change away these some typing errors, some maybe that something which are being likely to naturally occur automatically, enough, although
some for the purposefully

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Old 2012-07-04, 13:21   #15
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I (and expect many others) don't use the "preview" option.
If our first effort contains a typo, we are grateful to be able to
correct it ASAP.

OTOH if someone replies promptly, it is bad form to correct
yourself retrospectively, making the response appear ridiculous/nonsensical.

One hour is just fine IMO

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Old 2012-07-05, 00:31   #16
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I do preview things first. However, I am not as good at noticing omitted words or other simple but glaring problems until after I have posted; and I then tinker with what I have written.

Last fiddled with by only_human on 2012-07-05 at 01:10 Reason: Deleted redundant rewording. Tinkered with things, just because I could. s/fuss/tinker/
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Old 2012-07-05, 09:50   #17
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More than typos, it is the extra "related afterthought" or deletion of the "irrelevant/superfluous/useless" that renders the edit facility invaluable.

This doesn't seem to extend to PMs (or does it?)

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Old 2012-07-12, 19:34   #18
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More than typos, it is the extra "related afterthought" or deletion of the "irrelevant/superfluous/useless" that renders the edit facility invaluable.

This doesn't seem to extend to PMs (or does it?)

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I will seldom make out with typo errors, due to the fact that I will check out every word after being typed; the eyes being over the screen, not on the keyboard at all! If in case that it is being a typo mistake, it would most probably be a render error, usually involving into the incorrect parsing for the TEX tag, or otherwise the some other malformation for the superscript, subscript tags, or maybe the some other expression as well!

The major purpose that I will usually edit, hopefully applying for the others as well, will be mainly, mostly to add with the more new ideas being thought later onwards. Adding with some new things, stuff is being the important purpose for the editing feature alone, I will usually not intend in deleting away the information from the posted items at all.

After the week of the thinking for the Editing Feature process, I have come out, arriving into this ultimate conclusion.

  • The Reason for Editing text box may be better changed into the title Post Edition Summary such as similarly that to the Mersenne Wiki page does so with, it is being the precise purpose that the Edit Button serves for.
  • Regarding the Permanent Edit Feature, as long as no one complains with on for the post whoring at all, (i.e. making out with the multiple "especially small" posts, in order to increase post counts), the one hour limit for the editing time period feature is being perfectly fit in as it has been so,

except that it should override some incorrect things that had been posted within the some previous post, that might have been gone unnoticed, it should be re-posted again, then the formerly posted previous post should have been then deleted away.

This thing as well as being applies to the inability to post the multiple images embedded into a some single post at all, if so then we have to make out with the multiple postings with the embedded images for the one image per post case, then, nobody should then complain for the post whoring case at all; one and all, then; first of all, all at once.
as usually, casually.

okay alright then
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Old 2012-07-12, 19:55   #19
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I will seldom make out with typo errors
! Good for you !
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Old 2012-07-12, 20:10   #20
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The major purpose that I will usually edit, hopefully applying for the others as well, will be mainly, mostly to add with the more new ideas being thought later onwards.
I personally see at least two issues with allowing edits for an extended period:

1. Some use the edit feature (even with the current one hour limit) to slip new content in under the radar (no names...).

2. Once a post is made it will likely be read by others soon afterwards, who may respond based on the original post. The forum software does not appear to offer a function such that an edit to a post cannot be made after a post has been read.

IMHO, a public forum should be considered a bit like a public debate -- once something is said it is said, and it cannot be unsaid. Any changes should be followed up with clarification, not with the "speaker" being allowed to change what they've written. This might encourage people to use the "Preview Post" feature more to ensure what they've written is what they really wanted to say.

I would be interested in knowing how many "chat" or "blogging" systems you use where you're able to edit what you've submitted....
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Old 2012-07-12, 21:24   #21
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I would be interested in knowing how many "chat" or "blogging" systems you use where you're able to edit what you've submitted....
You're being asking me for this question?

Chat is being different in the structure. For example, it is among the two persons alone, nice if in case among furthermore people possible as well.

For the chat, if there is some typo, it can be immediately re-posted again. So is the same case for some afterthought, additional information to be passed by. The ability to post the additional information afterwards is being embedded within the chat, that's the provision to send again if needed to add with some new information, etc. even if not from within the old same message. Many times I might even need to break a long sentence delibrately into multiple smaller parts, splitting cases to send the message into the multiple lines fragments.

For the chat, we can immediately get the response, even we're being able to send an afterthought message sooner. From the forum, it will take some time for the message to be read, longer time frame in order to get with a some reply, etc.

For the chat, whatever you write that the other outsiders cannot see at all, it is being among the two persons alone, but for a public forum, it is not being the case at all. Some google searches will definitely turn out some pages off hereby. Thereby, I (I suspect some others as well), as partly sometimes as using this forum, like a Wiki, to write out some mathematical information, knowledge that which might be sometimes be useful pretty to the other people.

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IMHO, a public forum should be considered a bit like a public debate -- once something is said it is said, and it cannot be unsaid. Any changes should be followed up with clarification, not with the "speaker" being allowed to change what they've written. This might encourage people to use the "Preview Post" feature more to ensure what they've written is what they really wanted to say.
"Preview post" button may be the case for the correcting the typo errors, mistakes committed before. But, for adding the new ideas, what is being the solution case?

If in case before posting someone gets an idea he forgets while posting, he doesn't recall it for long, by the time he posts, he could not get it at all, he had been tired of thinking for it. Suddenly, if it flashes from within his mind itself, then?
Maybe the extended period edit button may be to add with the new ideas, not change away whatever has been posted before at all, for within such cases, it may be better to re-post again.

To come out to a conclusion, something to summarize off everything,
As long as someone does not complain for post whoring for the multiple posts, especially with the small contents from within its place, or otherwise alone for the multiple images, one image per post, without the some other related content at all, then it is being going on to be good!

I'd like to know for the what purpose the Soap Box forum does serve on over for. I hardly take part within it at all, since I don't understand them either, beyond my own head, they are being. Lacking the satisfaction, from within its own structure.
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Old 2012-07-12, 21:34   #22
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If in case before posting someone gets an idea he forgets while posting, he doesn't recall it for long, by the time he posts, he could not get it at all, he had been tired of thinking for it. Suddenly, if it flashes from within his mind itself, then?
Then they're free to follow up with another post, communicating the new (or temporarily forgotten) idea.

A bit like a public verbal debate... "Oh, I'd like to add something to what I said earlier..."
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