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Old 2012-06-27, 20:00   #1
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I know that for this forum, I am aware that we are being able to edit posts till an hour alone after which we have posted only, actually. But, after that we can post again if in case we do get with new thoughts, ideas, etc. in addition to our own previous posts itself.

Although, we are always being able to post again, But what justice is it if we cannot edit even merely our own posts afterwards, later on, after the time limit is being expired? I see that within many possible forums, we have got the authority to edit our posts forever. Of course, it is being true that I do not want to edit, even touch the other people's posts at all.

But for small typo corrections, for minor changes including new ideas, things, etc. solely it is being unfair to possibly post again. Then, for these positions, situations why not allow the permanent edit feature to our own posts forever?

Next, secondly, once we edit a post, it asks for the "reason" for posting. It is sometimes being irritating to urge for compulsion, when we need to make with minor error changes, they are being natural enough, although. Or otherwise adding with small new afterthoughts, ideas, later onwards, quite directly inclined to be natural again, always, as usual, casually.

Whenever a moderator edits other people's posts, then ask for "reason" itself. For other purposes, is it being possible to make it into "purpose for editing", "intention", or otherwise something less sound please?

I realize it is being a feature from vBulletin, typing in the reason to be called "Optional" only, actually. But, still, as yet,
[SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP]as such, like this way, to be away quite directly although naturally rather from within only, actually only, actually that which
meekly to be enough, although, only, actually, at all, at once, again, always, as usual, casually atleast already to be given away
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Reason:-> (again & again, always) Actually, we do edit posts only to add with new thoughts, ideas, these things like they coming alongby, usage sake & purpose as such. As since, in addition to this thing, in order to make some furthermore relatively little typo corrections, (if as they exist in some case, rather from within naturally enough)
if as they do occur quite naturally enough, directly, doing the committing for the errors is being natural enough for the human beings, as they do exist forever, therefore no need to ask for the reason for the editing sake & purpose repeatedly, doing the repetitions forever

just my own opinion, simply sake & purpose, case But
[SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP][SUP]Right then Now that which I'm Claiming away therefore thereby forever for the Permanent edit feature itself
Okay alright then by now itself forever
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Old 2012-06-27, 20:15   #2
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Are you asking about the one hour edit limit?



If so, some ideas are here:

http://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=12372
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Old 2012-06-27, 21:22   #3
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rather it is being okay for now, but by now itself,
which rather the only thing is being that that which
that i cannot predict whenever it would rather become a necessity itself, actually, rather
at all, as usually, casually, at once,
only actually, always again
to be fair, fine enough, although
i should rather to be satisfied to be able to post newly
forever always again
that which , as such, like these ways, forever, is being given away please
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Old 2012-06-27, 21:35   #4
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Arrrgh! My eyes bleed!!
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Old 2012-06-28, 01:06   #5
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Quote:
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rather it is being okay for now, but by now itself,
which rather the only thing is being that that which
that i cannot predict whenever it would rather become a necessity itself, actually, rather
at all, as usually, casually, at once,
only actually, always again
to be fair, fine enough, although
i should rather to be satisfied to be able to post newly
forever always again
that which , as such, like these ways, forever, is being given away please
That is a truly amazing: use a lot of words but say absolutely nothing at all.

Last fiddled with by retina on 2012-06-28 at 01:08 Reason: I didn't change anything. I just wanted to exercise my right to edit before it times out.
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Old 2012-06-29, 08:14   #6
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Next, secondly, once we edit a post, it asks for the "reason" for posting.
It's just an _opportunity_ for you to specify a reason. There's no requirement that you enter anything in the "reason" field.

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It is sometimes being irritating to urge for compulsion, when we need to make with minor error changes, they are being natural enough, although.
So, just ignore the "reason" field. Your changes will still be posted if you enter nothing in the "reason" field.
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Old 2012-07-02, 05:55   #7
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In my opinion unlimited editing is only a good idea on boards where posters are not encouraged to interact with each other very much.

It works well on sites where articles are posted and general users are able to post reactions to the article - provided that the website operators are trusted not to make alterations to the articles without making these alterations clear so that the reactions which have already been placed can be seen in the appropriate context.

This forum is not of that type. In some threads here, especially the Soap Box but sometimes elsewhere too, what people write is highly dependent on what others have written before. Therefore if someone wants to make a change to what they have previously written, other than correcting simple spelling errors or adding an afterthought which can easily be done in the time limit, then I think they should post again indicating their changed views. That is the only honest way of doing it.
I would rather propose that the time period limit for editing posts allowed might be a bit longer, if not forever. Of course.
That it might be extended to 6 hours 12 hours

Suppose that a newbie scolds someone, and that person gives a tit for tat response, and then the original poster deletes the offending post, the responder looking bad, that's being everything from the negative side.

Only a very few people, actually, will look into the accusing, getting other people into trouble.

Look at the positive side. Suppose that on from running an aliquot sequence, you arrive at a new iteration value, into which you run an adequate amount of ECM before starting with the GNFS. It is being possible that the ECM might not give out the result within the allotted edit period expires away, after that it might give away a nice 40 digit factor. For this minor post, should the original poster sound alarm, rather than whenever that it is being better to append along with into the previous post itself?

Similar things that may hold out for some small critical afterthoughts, that may naturally occur after the one hour limit expires, that may be best fit when edited within the previous post itself, rather than re-posting the entire thing again.
Or otherwise the same thing applies to the minor error changes, to be made corrections, that may go unnoticed within the allocated edit period frame itself
But it is being possible for a user to delete and then re-post if in case which he thinks that near the end of the edit period frame, the post is being nearly incomplete, significant quantity amount of information has to be added, or otherwise even for the editing thing,
activity to do feature, an exercise itself.

That does not mean that the original poster should not double post, either. It's being the poster's right itself. If he wants to make two different posts that are being independent of each other, even within the same thread, it is being possibly permitted, allowed.

The Super moderators have got the authority to edit every post forever, likewise, I think that the trusted members from this forum would have the right to edit their own posts... I would suggest that day's post could be accessible throughout the day... the next day's post might be posted away newly.

There are a variety of other features, restrictions, as well, they do not bother me much at all, they are being relatively as follows
for all these below things, we can be able to double post, or otherwise even multiple post accordingly in order to tackle these below things.

  • 10000 character limit (Solution - to double post, or otherwise post an attachment)
  • File types being given .bmp, .doc, .ppt, .xls, .wri, .frm, .java, .class file type etc. (Solution - to archive it into a ZIP file)
  • File size > 244.1 KB (Solution - to compress and then archive it, or otherwise for relatively bigger files - post elsewhere from download into)
  • Ability to post multiple images of our own being embedded within some one single post case itself (Solution - what case??)
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Old 2012-07-02, 20:29   #8
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I think the solution to those problems would be to:

1. Raise the limit from 10000 to 16384 to make more room.
2. Raise the attachment size limit to 1 MB so people don't have to worry about double posting to upload their files.
3. Allow people to edit their posts, no matter how many hours it's been since they first posted.
4. Allow more than 1 attachment per post so that larger attachments can be uploaded in one post.
5. Why is Davieddy banned? What on Earth did he do? I just saw Youtube links.

Why haven't you done #3 yet? It's not very nice to prevent someone from editing their own post. #2 could allow for bigger factor logs.

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Old 2012-07-02, 20:39   #9
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This forum exists for nearly 10 years. If you think that you have found something that hasn't been tried over these 10 years, you are most probably mistaken.

If you visit a dozen other similar boards, you will find that most of the admins converged to a very similar set of parameters. If you think communism hasn't been tried, think again. It has, but unfortunately people are not ready for it.

P.S. This forum has a standard FAQ (on the ribbon), but the preamble is a bit generic :-)
This one has a very reasonable set of rules (it is a very useful board, too)

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Old 2012-07-02, 20:45   #10
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Why haven't you done #2 yet? It's not very nice to prevent someone from editing their own post.
Because it's very irritating editing a post if others have answered them, so changing older posts would cause confusion to a reader.

BTW, I'm against all three points:

1. 1 MB of upload space in one post:
The 244k limit is enough in most cases. If you need more, there're other public places to upload such files, or make your own homepage to store files and put the link here.

Another point: the space of the Mersenneforum.org server costs money.

It's also a need to the poster to think about first what to post.

2. see above

3. see 1.

Another annoying thing in such a forum is, the "Quote" button: it seems easier to quote a whole post and write only a sentence as answer instead of quoting only the part of the post in question.

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Old 2012-07-03, 02:46   #11
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BTW, I'm against all three points:
I agree with kar_bon on all points. I am one guy who edit my posts in average two thousand five hundred and seventy three times to repair typos, grammar mistakes (what I can spot), add new ideas, delete stupid ideas, etc, I think no one beats me to this editing process (except maybe Dubslow when he has no sleep).

And the one hour limit was (almost) always more then enough.

The thing I hate most on a forum is when someone edit his post and completely change the meaning, after I replied to the initial meaning in his post.

The second thing I hate most on a forum is when someone reply to my posts before the editing limit expires, quoting (including) all my post in his reply, and so he does not give me any choice to edit the post and completely change its meaning before someone can reply....

etc...

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