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Old 2011-07-17, 10:10   #1
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Hi, I would like to know if I have more chance of finding a factor with ECM doing 3 curves on an exponent with B1=1000000 B2=100000000 or doing 1 curve on the same exponent with B1=3000000 B2=300000000 or it is not difference.
Thanks a lot.
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Hi, I would like to know if I have more chance of finding a factor with ECM doing 3 curves on an exponent with B1=1000000 B2=100000000 or doing 1 curve on the same exponent with B1=3000000 B2=300000000 or it is not difference.
Thanks a lot.
The accurate answer is "it depends". It depends on the size of the factor which may be found.

In practice, and to a first approximation, it rarely matters all that much which of the two alternatives you choose because, for a given size of factor to be found, the work versus B1 curve has a very shallow minimum.


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Old 2011-07-17, 18:15   #3
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Hi, I would like to know if I have more chance of finding a factor with ECM doing 3 curves on an exponent with B1=1000000 B2=100000000 or doing 1 curve on the same exponent with B1=3000000 B2=300000000 or it is not difference.
Thanks a lot.
All of this, and more, is answered in my joint paper with Sam Wagstaff:
A Practical Analysis of ECM, Math. Comp.
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