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"Gang aft agley"
Sep 2002
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Todays episode of As The Dollar Burns:
Open Range Communications is bankrupt. It had been awarded a $267 million dollar loan from the Rural Utilities Service of the Agriculture Department. Another $100 million had been invested by JPMorgan Chase. Open Range’s network to nowhere draws fire Open Range Communications was providing internet phone service and WiMax using satellite frequency spectrum licensed to Global Star. In March OPS said it had more than 20,000 subscribers. The FCC rescinded permission to Global Star for that spectrum for land-based signals but seems to have given some waivers for Open Range Communications to continue using it. That was not going to keep working, I guess. ORC looked to switch over to using LTE via LightSquared but that seems to not have worked out either. I haven't looked at it but know that LightSquared has been mentioned regarding GPS interference. At least the USDA was awake enough to the floundering that was occurring and froze its' loan after disbursing $73.5 million rather than the full $267 million -- the full amount is the largest loan in USDA history per the quote below and also would amount to half a Solyndra, and that, then, would be real money. http://www.openrange.us/ Quote:
Last fiddled with by only_human on 2011-11-17 at 13:58 Reason: s(via WiMax,and WiMax), quoted www.openrange.us |
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(loop (#_fork))
Feb 2006
Cambridge, England
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This sort of thing I find difficult to complain about - it's quite reasonable for a government to hand out loans to new companies trying to do desirable but difficult things, and you would expect that quite a lot of these companies will fail and lose all their money. If it becomes a political catastrophe for any government-loan-receiving company to fail, no politician will provide the loans, and companies that would have survived with the loans will fail quietly.
Solyndra was part of IIRC a $40 billion collection of loans from the DoE; having only one complete disaster in the first year, amounting to 2% of the fund, would be cause for celebration and champagne at your average venture capital fund. And it seems likely there's been only one disaster, since partisan journalists would be slavering to report second and subsequent disasters. |
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"Gang aft agley"
Sep 2002
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
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Long before the politically connected California solar firm Solyndra went bankrupt, President Obama was warned by his top economic advisors about the financial and political risks of the Energy Department loan guarantee program that boosted the company's rapid ascent. At a White House meeting in late October, Lawrence H. Summers, then director of the National Economic Council, and Timothy F. Geithner, the Treasury secretary, expressed concerns that the selection process for federal loan guarantees wasn't rigorous enough and raised the risk that funds could be going to the wrong companies, including ones that didn't need the help. And there is a proliferation of reports revealing the hidden political connections in many such govt-backed projects - here is a recent example from my neck of the woods: It’s as if Solyndra never happened. The Obama Administration is giving $737 million to a Tonopah Solar, a subsidiary of California-based SolarReserve. PCG is an investment partner with SolarReserve. Nancy Pelosi’s brother-in-law happens to be the number two man at PCG. The blogger here has a clear political bias, but my point is that this kind of thing is pervasive. One of the few areas where we see genuine "bipartisanship" on Capitol Hill is when it comes to funneling taxpayer monies to political, family and business cronies. Quote:
Also, it seems that - as with Wall Street - the real truth about many such ventures never comes out until one fails spectacularly. If MF Global had managed to avoid blowing up, would we have ever been the wiser about their misuse of client funds? And remember Madoff`s decades-long Ponzi only came to light when the 2008 financial crisis caused a sufficient number of his clients to pull their money. If for every Solyndra there were a hundred ventures quietly bleeding cash but managing to avoid highly-public shock bankruptcies, you think your hypothetical venture fund would still be throwing that party? Last fiddled with by ewmayer on 2011-11-17 at 20:01 |
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Aug 2003
Snicker, AL
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This one is well worth reading.
http://news.yahoo.com/next-financial...204303737.html Quote:
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(loop (#_fork))
Feb 2006
Cambridge, England
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Feb 2006
Cambridge, England
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Dec 2010
Monticello
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We have the same issue with cell coverage...I, being one of the less dense people, find myself often in areas where cell phones just don't work -- for example, in Shenandoah National park, but not on a mountaintop with a view!
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
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Big-time signs of credit stress in Europe ... and on this side of the pond, all I have to say today is "Just because you called it a 'supercommittee' doesn't make it true."
The hilarious (in a sick-laughter kind of way) thing is, with this level of hyperpartisan wrangling and dysfunctionality over plans to cut annual budget deficits by at most 10% versus current levels, what chance is there of these same blinkered, dogmatic, corporate-owned morons actually putting the nation on track to a balanced budget? Why, that would be 'none'. High time for the ratings agencies to slash the US to the 'junk' it deserves. Last fiddled with by ewmayer on 2011-11-21 at 20:04 |
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∂2ω=0
Sep 2002
República de California
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Germany had a disastrously failed bond auction today:
Deutschlands Spottzins verschreckt die Investoren: Die Schuldenkrise hat Europas Stabilitätsanker erfasst. Der Verkauf von Staatsanleihen wird für Deutschland zum Desaster. Dabei muss die Euro-Zone 1,5 Billionen am Markt einwerben. (translation mine): Germany`s low bond yields spook investors: The debt crisis has reahed Europe`s stability anchor. The latest auction of German government debt proves a disaster. The Eurozone as a whole has 1.5 Trillion in bond offerings on deck in the coming year. Quote:
Germany: 335 billion Euro France: 414 billion Euro Italy: 400 billion Euro Spain: 217 billion Euro Belgium: 82 billion Euro. Greece, Ireland and Portugal are full 'wards of the state' w.r.to debt issuance, i.e. their financing needs are presumably included in the above and the ECB rescue fund. |
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Aug 2002
Termonfeckin, IE
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I don't think it is that disastrous. They were issuing a coupon of 2% and investors said, sorry we need a better return. Even from Germany.
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