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Sep 2002
República de California
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ZehoHedge contributor (and government-trust-fund specialist) Bruce Krasting calls out recently-stepped-down Obama economic-team member Christina Romer for lying about the national debt by engaging in the oh-so-common ploy of ignoring the Social Security and Medicare trust fund borrowings as if they were not there (boldface highlighting is his, not mine):
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Dec 2010
Monticello
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0.2 Trillion out of 15 trillion does not a balanced budget begin to make...though it may help a bit. Personally, I believe that insurance poisons the markets it dominates in....I have seen this with both car body repairs and the health field, because it removes significant responsibility for controlling costs from the consumer. When I wrecked a car, landing it on its side, I ended up with a gold-standard, like-new job where a bronze-standard job would have done fine for me. I don't have any good solutions for health insurance...I see significant benefits to myself of having reasonable health care universally available, but can't see how to get there. I don't see how to discourage abuse of the system by the consumers, except through financial charges which some cannot afford, and I don't see how to put all the insurance clam-handling clerks out of business, and how to control the "my machine is better than your machine" phenomenon. I also don't see how to encourage an epidemic of science-based medicine, when becoming a doctor rquires suffering significant amounts of abuse. Proposals on how to control the cost of this highly valuable commodity? |
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May 2003
7·13·17 Posts |
Dear cheesehead,
Would you believe that I didn't post what I did out of laziness? Or childhood indoctrination? Or stupidity? Or an attempt to accuse you? Or anything like that? Would you believe that I posted what I did out of concern? Would you believe that I've seen the type of resentment you have quickly fester into an obsessive one-sided mindset that blinds the person to alternate viewpoints? This obsession then leads the person to focus on what they perceive to be the faults of those who "failed" them, not realizing in their crusade that there is more to the story. I've seen it with all sorts of people leaving all sorts of institutions/parties/relationships. Anyway, to keep this post somewhat on topic, I'll try to answer your question "What is your definition of "spending ... under control"?" Frankly, it is a very loose sort of notion, and the answer I would give might differ from someone else's answer (even if they understood the concept the same way I did). My feeling is that taxes should cover what we, the citizens, collectively want the government to fund. We shouldn't leave the debt for others to pay. We should pay it ourselves. The trouble is, in our system, it often only takes a majority of politicians to decide to increase government functions. Obamacare is a prime example. Furthermore, politicians somehow think that if there is a *projected* surplus then that authorizes them to spend less frugally now (cue the Bush tax cuts). So, somehow, we never seem to be in the black. So, on principle, I'm not opposed to raising taxes. However, I'd like to see any tax hikes correspond to actual programs needing to be funded (so the other "consumers" [i.e. citizens] can stop thinking of these programs as free) and that they be accompanied by serious budget reform. And I'm not talking about 1 trillion is cuts to projected spending, leaving us spending even more money than last year. I think Obamacare would have had a different vote if our tax rates were all raised by a flat percentage to cover the additional costs. If it had still passed, so be it. I'd also like to see a tax rate which is a little more flat, so that everyone pays at least a little--so they realize the programs they benefit from are not free rides. I am definitely for closing up tax loopholes, etc... |
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"Frank <^>"
Dec 2004
CDP Janesville
212210 Posts |
What we really need is an interactive tool that shows what making cuts to different programs would do for the whole budget mess....the Sacramento Bee had links to one for California when The Governator was in office and he was duking it out with the legislators over the budget.
Here's an interesting graphic from Barry Ritholtz's blog (~40% is a huge cut!): Last fiddled with by schickel on 2011-08-15 at 04:42 Reason: Had to add a link for the trailer! |
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"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA
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I would if you'd simply say straight out what you mean instead of playing rhetorical tricks. But for a while lately, whenever I've asked straight questions, you've often evaded giving straight answers. This has puzzled me because it wasn't typical of you in the past when we discussed other matters. I now see glimmers of a possibility that you might be leaving the evasive phase. If your future responses avoid rhetorical evasion, I'll welcome the change.
How about giving us a straightforward answer to this: What was it that you were claiming in post #392 that I didn't "get"? Because you didn't say what that was in #392, it seemed that your "What I don't get is how one-sided your posts are" implied that you might have been claiming that what I didn't "get" was being less "one-sided". I based my response on that -- if my guess was wrong, it's up to you to tell us just what you meant. Again, the question is: What was it that you were claiming in post #392 that I didn't "get"? Quote:
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Spinning a fantasy of my supposed "obsession" does not constitute a refutation. Did you notice that in #394 I wrote: "(If you disagree, please show us specific evidence to support your accusation next time.)" ? In #399, what evidence do you present to support your new accusations about me? None. No evidence at all. Please demonstrate the sincerity of your change of course by showing us evidence to support your accusations from now on. Quote:
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Dec 2010
Monticello
179510 Posts |
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I have a question: To what extent does defense spending (especially on weapons engineering programs) constitute a "brain drain" on the rest of the economy? I certainly note that the internet boom happened on the heels of a defense downturn. |
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"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA
1E0C16 Posts |
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...budget_process
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-------------------- Congressional Research Service "Introduction to the Federal Budget Process" http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/98-721_20101202.pdf This seems mainly to assume that the reader already knows the definitions of terms such as "discretionary" and "direct spending", but it has lots of description, within which is sometimes buried a parenthetical definition. Example, page 6: Quote:
Aah, here we go! From the GAO: "A Glossary of Terms Used in the Federal Budget Process" http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05734sp.pdf Quote:
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Sep 2002
República de California
19×613 Posts |
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----------------- Mish reveals why the markets were coughing up hairballs over several of the biggest French banks in the past 2 weeks - Shades of 2008, Bear Stearns, Lehman, etc, a.k.a. "Fun games one can play with one's Tier 1 capital computation": BNP Paribas leveraged 27:1; Société Générale Leveraged 50:1 |
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Aug 2003
Snicker, AL
7·137 Posts |
The buck does NOT stop here. There are no bucks left. All we have now are dollars and they are pretty much worth the paper they are printed on. I keep hoping a president will have something serious to say about stopping the political maneuvering and get down to doing something about the nations finances. Fat chance.
As an fyi, I am considering selling a few thousand dollars worth of silver coins and a few pieces of gold jewelry that I purchased several years ago as an investment. Anyone interested before I place them on Ebay? DarJones |
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Sep 2002
República de California
19·613 Posts |
So the Iowa Straw Poll (a kind of Republican presidential primary) was this past weekend, and Michelle Bachmann, who put huge time and money into courting the voters in that state, won, just ahead of Libertarian, antiwar campaigner and sound-money-advocate Ron Paul. I watched the evening news afterward on the local Fox affiliate, and was startled to hear no mention of Paul ... they mentioned Bachmann, Mitt Romney and Texas governor Rick Perry as the "clear top tier Republican frontrunners". That struck me as bizarre ... and it appears I am (thankfully) not alone in that. This would be merely funny if the media bias weren’t so flagrant (but it’s still pretty damn funny):
Indecision 2012: Jon Stewart On The Ron "13th Floor In A Hotel" Paul Media Blackout Time magazine also comments on this curious phenomenon: The Morning After: Jon Stewart Sticks Up for Invisible Man Ron Paul I vaguely remember a time, years ago, when now-Fox-chief-anchor-shill Chris Wallace was actually a respected newsman. Performances like you see in the Daily Show clip make the following quote of his (from the above Wikipage) especially ironic: “After another 14 years at ABC, Wallace left in 2003 to join the Fox News Channel. He has remarked in the past that his work at Fox opened his eyes to what critics cite as bias in the mainstream press." And note that it’s not just the right-biased media which engage in this sort of thing: See if you find any mention of Rep. Paul in this New York Times piece. Rock Musician and satirist Frank Zappa may have said it best in his song I’m the slime (oozing out from your TV set): You will obey me while I lead you And eat the garbage that I feed you Until the day that we don't need you Don't go for help...no one will heed you Your mind is totally controlled It has been stuffed into my mold And you will do as you are told Until the rights to you are sold. Last fiddled with by ewmayer on 2011-08-17 at 00:32 |
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Nov 2003
22·5·373 Posts |
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