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He was accused of lying about getting a blow job (consensual!) from Monica. |
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Sydney
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Dec 2010
Monticello
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I vote simply for large effective margin requirements (like 25%) on all this stuff -- that is, the detachment from preparedeness for delivery is the problem. |
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(Trading Places......). I will accede to commodity trading but 25% margin is far from adequate IMO. It is gambling with borrowed money. |
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Dec 2010
Monticello
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Little different than the meaningless distinction between amateur and professional olympic athletes. Would you settle for half, or do you want 80-100% margin? |
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P90 years forever!
Aug 2002
Yeehaw, FL
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No. How about forcing the person contracting for a barrel of oil in December to actually take delivery of that barrel. No reselling the contract. That should curb speculation and allow legitimate hedging of risk for businesses.
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Sep 2002
República de California
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McClatchy newspapers had a nice piece recently on the price of speculation in the oil markets - I love how they take all the various "reasons" for high oil prices given by sell-siders and folks profiting from the speculation and rip each and every one of them to pieces using actual data: Speculation explains more about oil prices than anything else Quote:
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Dec 2010
Monticello
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Assuming the theater continues, how long before we get a serious crash and serious reform? Guesses? |
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Sep 2002
República de California
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- Europe debt crisis erupting with renewed force - Signs of slowing (mainly as government can-kicking Ponzi schemes reach their limits) worldwide - Signs of credit-bubble stress in China and the BRICs - U.S. Housing market in a second major downleg, job market (with a few notable exceptions, mainly Wall Street and Tech) still sucking hard, Fed money-printing now clearly stoking hard-goods inflation while wages stagnate. I predict before end of the year there will be major turmoil, with the obligatory photos of panicked When Black Friday comes I'll stand down by the door And catch the grey men when they Dive from the fourteenth floor... -- Steely Dan, Black Friday (1975) |
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"Richard B. Woods"
Aug 2002
Wisconsin USA
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If not, how does that significantly differ from your oil-contract proposal? (Actually, it's more generous than your proposal; it allows reselling back to the one who issued it.) Quote:
There's another person who will happily buy that contract from me for his anticipated use for the barrel of oil in December. But you would have me forced to retain the contract which has become useless to me, and not allow someone else to purchase it from me. Alternative A: In December, I take delivery, then the other guy buys it from me and arranges transport to his place. What is the purpose of making the other guy wait, then get the barrel from me, instead of just purchasing the contract from me, then presenting it to the oil's owner with the new shipping address (or however those things are handled)? Alternative B: The other guy deals only with the oil's direct owner by purchasing a fresh new contract. Except ... the oil's owner sadly informs the other guy that he can't legally sell him a contract because he's already sold contracts for all the barrels he owns that will be available in December. It would be fraud to issue another contract for the same barrel that I already have contracted for. Again, you make the other guy wait, find me and my barrel, and arrange transport from me to him after it's delivered to me, instead of just a single transport from owner to other guy -- What is the role of this double transport in curbing speculation? Alternative C: I can sell my contract, but only back to the oil's owner, so that he can re-sell/reissue it to the guy who needs it. But then -- why do you require that rigamarole instead of my directly selling it to the other guy, who presents it to the oil's owner with the new shipping address (or however those things are handled)? - - The basic problem with your proposal is that it affects all commodity contract transactions -- both speculation and ordinary legitimate business -- instead of being aimed only at the undesirable speculative transaction. (I'm rather surprised that this comes from someone who previously expressed distaste for Last fiddled with by cheesehead on 2011-05-18 at 07:13 |
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