40 questions round 2

[Uncwilly]

Originally Posted by Flatlander

20) On that same web page, is it in the section entitled "Hide & Hair"?

No

[Mini-Geek]

21) On that same web page, is it in the section entitled "Bone, Horn, Hooves, & Gelatin"?

[Uncwilly]

Originally Posted by Mini-Geek

21) On that same web page, is it in the section entitled "Bone, Horn, Hooves, & Gelatin"?

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Originally Posted by Uncwilly

No

[Mini-Geek]

Summary:
1) is it a chordate ? Yes.
2) is it man made ? Yes.
3) does it being made involve a mammal (not man) ? Yes.
4) is it made from a placental mammal ? Yes
5)Is it made from a carnivore ? No.
6) Is it usually made from either a cow or sheep? Yes.
7) Is it intended to be eaten? No.
8) Is/are the animal(s) killed during the process of making this object? No.
9) Is it typically carried around or worn as clothing by humans? No.
10) Is it made from something that would naturally be excreted as waste from the animal? No.
11) Is it used to produce sound when blow? No.
12) Is it usually made from cows? Yes.
13) Is it a medical product? No.
14) [regarding "there is one question (beside the first) that was poorly asked. The answer given was to the question asked, not to what the asker meant."] Are you referring to ((question 7) OR (question 10) OR (question 11) OR (question 13))? No.
15) Is it made, at least partly, from cows' bones and/or internal organs? No.
16) Is it directly derived from an animal [as opposed to something that is the output of further processing after extracting something from said animal]? eg:- milk vs cheese. milk = directly derived. cheese = further processed. No.
17) Is it made, at least partly, from skin, horn or hooves of an animal? Yes.
18) Is it solid state and structurally rigid? No.
19) Is it (a part of a cow) OR (a cow derived product) mentioned on this page? Yes.
20) On that same web page, is it in the section entitled "Hide & Hair"? No.
21) On that same web page, is it in the section entitled "Bone, Horn, Hooves, & Gelatin"? No.

So it's definitely narrowed to something on this page that's not in the Bone, Horn, Hooves, & Gelatin, or Hide & Hair categories. I think leather might be the answer. Question 8 says "killed during the process of making this object", and arguably the animals are killed well before the process of making leather begins (question 8 was not eliminated by question 14, so it's possible he gave the hint regarding that question). And as already mentioned, question 9 might exclude shoes. Some leather products are mentioned in the Hide & Hair category, but not leather as a generality.

[science_man_88]

Originally Posted by Mini-Geek

Summary:
1) is it a chordate ? Yes.
2) is it man made ? Yes.
3) does it being made involve a mammal (not man) ? Yes.
4) is it made from a placental mammal ? Yes
5)Is it made from a carnivore ? No.
6) Is it usually made from either a cow or sheep? Yes.
7) Is it intended to be eaten? No.
8) Is/are the animal(s) killed during the process of making this object? No.
9) Is it typically carried around or worn as clothing by humans? No.
10) Is it made from something that would naturally be excreted as waste from the animal? No.
11) Is it used to produce sound when blow? No.
12) Is it usually made from cows? Yes.
13) Is it a medical product? No.
14) [regarding "there is one question (beside the first) that was poorly asked. The answer given was to the question asked, not to what the asker meant."] Are you referring to ((question 7) OR (question 10) OR (question 11) OR (question 13))? No.
15) Is it made, at least partly, from cows' bones and/or internal organs? No.
16) Is it directly derived from an animal [as opposed to something that is the output of further processing after extracting something from said animal]? eg:- milk vs cheese. milk = directly derived. cheese = further processed. No.
17) Is it made, at least partly, from skin, horn or hooves of an animal? Yes.
18) Is it solid state and structurally rigid? No.
19) Is it (a part of a cow) OR (a cow derived product) mentioned on this page? Yes.
20) On that same web page, is it in the section entitled "Hide & Hair"? No.
21) On that same web page, is it in the section entitled "Bone, Horn, Hooves, & Gelatin"? No.

So it's definitely narrowed to something on this page that's not in the Bone, Horn, Hooves, & Gelatin, or Hide & Hair categories. I think leather might be the answer. Question 8 says "killed during the process of making this object", and arguably the animals are killed well before the process of making leather begins (question 8 was not eliminated by question 14, so it's possible he gave the hint regarding that question). And as already mentioned, question 9 might exclude shoes. Some leather products are mentioned in the Hide & Hair category, but not leather as a generality.

Shampoo, soaps, shaving creams, cosmetics, deodorants, candles, crayons, floor wax, detergents, hydraulic break fluid, plastics, insecticides, paints, perfumes, and synthetic rubber. what's eliminated in this ?

[Mini-Geek]

Originally Posted by science_man_88

Shampoo, soaps, shaving creams, cosmetics, deodorants, candles, crayons, floor wax, detergents, hydraulic break fluid, plastics, insecticides, paints, perfumes, and synthetic rubber. what's eliminated in this ?

Nothing is too certain, but remember "17) Is it made, at least partly, from skin, horn or hooves of an animal? Yes." That would seem to most likely eliminate everything from that category. I just think that leather, or some leather product, is a very likely candidate.

[science_man_88]

Originally Posted by Mini-Geek

Nothing is too certain, but remember "17) Is it made, at least partly, from skin, horn or hooves of an animal? Yes." That would seem to most likely eliminate everything from that category. I just think that leather, or some leather product, is a very likely candidate.

well from what I read that leaves meat and dairy, which are already eliminated.

[Mini-Geek]

Originally Posted by science_man_88

well from what I read that leaves meat and dairy, which are already eliminated.

Hence:

Originally Posted by Mini-Geek

I think leather might be the answer. Question 8 says "killed during the process of making this object", and arguably the animals are killed well before the process of making leather begins (question 8 was not eliminated by question 14, so it's possible he gave the hint regarding that question). And as already mentioned, question 9 might exclude shoes. Some leather products are mentioned in the Hide & Hair category, but not leather as a generality.

[Uncwilly]

Is there a question in all of this?

[Mini-Geek]

Originally Posted by Uncwilly

Is there a question in all of this?

Nope, I don't think so. I'm waiting for my timeout period, otherwise I'd be asking about if leather is the right track.

[cheesehead]

Okay, let's get this out of the way:

22) On that same web page, is it outside (i.e., not in) the section entitled "Fats and Fatty Acids"?

If answer to #22 is Yes, then followup is:

23) Is it made at least partly of leather?

Whether answer to #23 is Yes or No, then I yield to someone else.