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[TheMawn]

Older than three months with 0% progress sounds fairly dubious to me. If it's just queued work, the program will automatically fetch more. I'd say re-release all of the ones with 0%.

I seriously doubt very many people would be pissed off if we did that.

Could you filter the list for 0% completion and see how many that is?

EDIT: I would also recommend implementing some kind of requirement to get bottom-of-the-pile work so that the same users don't give us the same problem a year down the line.

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by TheMawn

Could you filter the list for 0% completion and see how many that is?

Sure; as could anyone who imports the CSV file into the tool of their choice...

2,462 assignments older than 91 days, and 0% work completed.

4,915 assignments older than 91 days, and less than 10% work completed (thus inferring approximately 2.5 years to complete best-case for most cases).

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by TheMawn

EDIT: I would also recommend implementing some kind of requirement to get bottom-of-the-pile work so that the same users don't give us the same problem a year down the line.

Completely agree.

George, Scott and James (should) have much better heuristics available to them via the Primenet server. I derived this list using only publicly accessible data.

Further, I question the value of the "Manual assignments" from Primenet (particularly for "Anonymous"). Why are they valid for 180 days before being recycled? And in some cases users extend them for many years with no reported progress.

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by kracker

EDIT: Hmm.. I see I'm in there. I didn't know I had LL assignments outside gpu72... Wonder why

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this. But the data is:

31133689,D,1,0,131,999999999,131,"kracker","Manual testing"
32110523,D,1,0,131,999999999,131,"kracker","Manual testing"
32146871,D,1,0,128,999999999,128,"kracker","Manual testing"
36666697,D,1,0,111,999999999,111,"kracker","Manual testing"
37000181,D,1,0,121,999999999,121,"kracker","Manual testing"
37777787,D,1,0,111,999999999,111,"kracker","Manual testing"
38500339,D,1,0,110,999999999,110,"kracker","Manual testing"
58125523,LL,1,0,116,999999999,116,"kracker","Manual testing"
58126811,LL,1,0,116,999999999,116,"kracker","Manual testing"
58137509,LL,1,0,116,999999999,116,"kracker","Manual testing"
58193693,LL,1,0,102,999999999,102,"kracker","Manual testing"
64018411,LL,1,0,119,999999999,119,"kracker","Manual testing"

Is this a bug somewhere that you are reporting?

[kracker]

Originally Posted by chalsall

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this. But the data is:

31133689,D,1,0,131,999999999,131,"kracker","Manual testing"
32110523,D,1,0,131,999999999,131,"kracker","Manual testing"
32146871,D,1,0,128,999999999,128,"kracker","Manual testing"
36666697,D,1,0,111,999999999,111,"kracker","Manual testing"
37000181,D,1,0,121,999999999,121,"kracker","Manual testing"
37777787,D,1,0,111,999999999,111,"kracker","Manual testing"
38500339,D,1,0,110,999999999,110,"kracker","Manual testing"
58125523,LL,1,0,116,999999999,116,"kracker","Manual testing"
58126811,LL,1,0,116,999999999,116,"kracker","Manual testing"
58137509,LL,1,0,116,999999999,116,"kracker","Manual testing"
58193693,LL,1,0,102,999999999,102,"kracker","Manual testing"
64018411,LL,1,0,119,999999999,119,"kracker","Manual testing"

Is this a bug somewhere that you are reporting?

Not really. Just some assignments that I hadn't realized I had.

[TheMawn]

Originally Posted by chalsall

Further, I question the value of the "Manual assignments" from Primenet (particularly for "Anonymous"). Why are they valid for 180 days before being recycled? And in some cases users extend them for many years with no reported progress.

I'm standing right beside you on this one. "Anonymous" needs restrictions on their ability to get and extend assignments. Perhaps they too could be restricted from taking bottom-of-the-pile assignments entirely and be not allowed to extend them past 90 days for DC, 180 for LL?

[TheMawn]

Originally Posted by chalsall

Sure; as could anyone who imports the CSV file into the tool of their choice...

Believe me, I would have gladly done it myself, but I don't know that any of the software I use can filter that. Unless excel has some comma-spacing option for columns.

I think I'm gonna go check that out...

EDIT: Omagad it does. Forget sleeping tonight, I'mma sort me through some data...

EDIT: Which fucker let me through 3 and a half years of engineering without telling me about this?

[chalsall]

Originally Posted by TheMawn

EDIT: Which fucker let me through 3 and a half years of engineering without telling me about this?

In all seriousness, there was a reason I dropped out of University about 25 years ago. I wasn't learning anything I hadn't already taught myself.

I was then invited back to teach by the same University about ten years later....

[petrw1]

Originally Posted by TheMawn

I seriously doubt very many people would be pissed off if we did that.

My 6 will all be done within a few weeks ... and that is without intervention.

Not pissed off ... no ... but I do often have work over 90 days ... for a couple of reasons:

1. 90 is the maximum "Days of work to queue up" you can specify and sometime I do that if I want to load up with work in a "sweet" range ... knowing that it will all get done within the 90 days plus however long it takes to complete once started ... up to 45 more days.

2. Sometimes I need to juggle my worktodo a little to complete "prime" (pun intended) assignments first (i.e. milestone helpers). This can move some a little beyond 90 days.

So could I suggest 90 days is a little too aggressive; especially considering how many are on the list well beyond that. And because a specific assignment has no progress doesn't mean it isn't moving up the list in the worktodo.

Safer but probably much more difficult might be to look for NO progress and NO reduction in Days to complete over time.

[petrw1]

Originally Posted by TheMawn

I'm standing right beside you on this one. "Anonymous" needs restrictions on their ability to get and extend assignments. Perhaps they too could be restricted from taking bottom-of-the-pile assignments entirely and be not allowed to extend them past 90 days for DC, 180 for LL?

Except that ANONYMOUS is many different people who choose not to be named.

Some are very well behaved in this regard ... some ???

[TheMawn]

Originally Posted by chalsall

In all seriousness, there was a reason I dropped out of University about 25 years ago. I wasn't learning anything I hadn't already taught myself.

I was then invited back to teach by the same University about ten years later....

Sadly the kind of work I'm going after requires the bachelor's degree at a minimum. If I was in business I probably would have given up and just gone and started working.