mersenneforum.org  

Go Back   mersenneforum.org > Factoring Projects > Factoring

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2010-08-17, 12:42   #12
em99010pepe
 
em99010pepe's Avatar
 
Sep 2004

2·5·283 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman View Post
My personal opinion is that doing a number from the extensions, when
the extensions still have not been officially added to the table is
ridiculous

There are many other suitable numbers, still undone, from the 1st printed
edition of the book. Let's work on finishing them.
We are not interested in your personal opinion, go away if you don't want to help.
em99010pepe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-08-17, 12:56   #13
debrouxl
 
debrouxl's Avatar
 
Sep 2009

977 Posts
Default

Hey people, keep cool
It's not the first time I see Prof. Silverman posting clear-cut, sometimes controversial, opinions. He has the right to do so, just as much as we have the right to disagree.

As Greg wrote above, factoring this number would help two projects. Likewise, William Lipp makes yoyo@home and subsequently RSALS work on a number of Brent composites. Would the undone numbers from the 1st printed edition of the book help multiple projects ?
debrouxl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-08-17, 13:15   #14
R.D. Silverman
 
R.D. Silverman's Avatar
 
Nov 2003

22·5·373 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by debrouxl View Post
Hey people, keep cool
It's not the first time I see Prof. Silverman posting clear-cut, sometimes controversial, opinions. He has the right to do so, just as much as we have the right to disagree.

As Greg wrote above, factoring this number would help two projects. Likewise, William Lipp makes yoyo@home and subsequently RSALS work on a number of Brent composites. Would the undone numbers from the 1st printed edition of the book help multiple projects ?
I disagree that it helps the tail-chasing for OddPerfect since I think that
project is pointless. Raising the bound on the minimal size for an odd perfect
number does nothing toward proving that none exist. All the wasted CPU
time for this project would be much better spent on (say) Seventeen or Bust
which has a definitive END.

BTW: Didn't your mother ever tell you "finish what you start before doing
something new"?
R.D. Silverman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-08-17, 13:19   #15
wblipp
 
wblipp's Avatar
 
"William"
May 2003
New Haven

93E16 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by em99010pepe View Post
Anyone here wants to set up an ecmserver for this number?
Next week I'll be back in the US and will change the OddPerfect Most Wanted ECM server to hand out only this number. It currently hands out this number plus several others. That server is at

oddperfect.no-ip.com:8201

William

Last fiddled with by wblipp on 2010-08-20 at 10:39 Reason: frmky spotted typo in URL
wblipp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-08-17, 16:40   #16
frmky
 
frmky's Avatar
 
Jul 2003
So Cal

22·32·59 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman View Post
My personal opinion is that doing a number from the extensions, when
the extensions still have not been officially added to the table is
ridiculous.
Normally I would agree with you, but in this case I'm making an exception because the confluence of attractive qualities listed in the first post for me overrides "finish what you start." For the "science" (I'm a physicist after all!) I just need to collect data on how a 290 behaves, and any ole 290 will do.
frmky is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-08-17, 16:56   #17
Andi47
 
Andi47's Avatar
 
Oct 2004
Austria

2×17×73 Posts
Default

p+1: 2 runs with B1=1e9, B2=1e14, no factor.
Andi47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-08-17, 18:34   #18
R.D. Silverman
 
R.D. Silverman's Avatar
 
Nov 2003

22×5×373 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by frmky View Post
Normally I would agree with you, but in this case I'm making an exception because the confluence of attractive qualities listed in the first post for me overrides "finish what you start." For the "science" (I'm a physicist after all!) I just need to collect data on how a 290 behaves, and any ole 290 will do.
So why not do e.g. 12,269-? (a second hole from the existing table)
There are plenty of numbers from the current tables that fit your needs.
I see no reason to draw from the extension(s).
R.D. Silverman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-08-17, 19:16   #19
fivemack
(loop (#_fork))
 
fivemack's Avatar
 
Feb 2006
Cambridge, England

23·11·73 Posts
Default

But people are actually interested in 3^607-1; the fact that you don't think they should be doesn't alter the fact that they are, and does make it more interesting than some random Cunningham-table number of about the right size which isn't even the size of a finite field.
fivemack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-08-17, 21:12   #20
em99010pepe
 
em99010pepe's Avatar
 
Sep 2004

2×5×283 Posts
Default

Done with 40 curves.
Attached Files
File Type: zip 40curves.zip (1.9 KB, 100 views)
em99010pepe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-08-17, 21:21   #21
R.D. Silverman
 
R.D. Silverman's Avatar
 
Nov 2003

22×5×373 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fivemack View Post
But people are actually interested in 3^607-1; the fact that you don't think they should be doesn't alter the fact that they are, and does make it more interesting than some random Cunningham-table number of about the right size which isn't even the size of a finite field.
And a lot of people also like to read the National Enquirer.......

Chasing 3,607- shows a lack of historical perspective.
R.D. Silverman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-08-17, 21:46   #22
CRGreathouse
 
CRGreathouse's Avatar
 
Aug 2006

10111010110112 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by R.D. Silverman View Post
So why not do e.g. 12,269-? (a second hole from the existing table)
There are plenty of numbers from the current tables that fit your needs.
I see no reason to draw from the extension(s).
Bob, I'm curious as to why you feel these factorizations are so important. Your arguments (esp. with the OPN crowd) come down to "factoring your numbers isn't important", but I don't really see the intrinsic importance of the Cunningham factorizations either.
CRGreathouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
not needed zeit PrimeNet 3 2008-04-25 08:03
5- Table Discussion and OddPerfect.org Zeta-Flux Cunningham Tables 69 2008-04-24 11:04
could oddperfect's ecm progress page be improved? jasong GMP-ECM 11 2007-05-30 03:08
P56 ECM Factor of 19^193-1 for OddPerfect.org wblipp Factoring 33 2005-10-05 03:19
V24.12 QA help needed Prime95 Software 5 2005-06-17 15:54

All times are UTC. The time now is 15:38.


Fri Aug 6 15:38:43 UTC 2021 up 14 days, 10:07, 1 user, load averages: 2.35, 2.54, 2.70

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum has received and complied with 0 (zero) government requests for information.

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation.
A copy of the license is included in the FAQ.