mersenneforum.org  

Go Back   mersenneforum.org > Extra Stuff > Miscellaneous Math

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2010-09-09, 16:14   #452
CRGreathouse
 
CRGreathouse's Avatar
 
Aug 2006

3×1,993 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3.14159 View Post
Why don't you do that?
No interest -- it's pure number-crunching. (The only reason this came up was my declination of this sort of brute force CPU work, remember?)

But since you seemed interested in that sort of calculation I thought I'd offer the chance. It's somewhat more lasting 'fame' than the Top 5000 list which has a good deal of churn.
CRGreathouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-09-09, 16:17   #453
3.14159
 
3.14159's Avatar
 
May 2010
Prime hunting commission.

24·3·5·7 Posts
Default

An example of a 2a * 3b + 1 prime:

243 * 3796 + 1 is prime.

Larger example: 2200 * 34183 + 1 is prime.

Last fiddled with by 3.14159 on 2010-09-09 at 16:25
3.14159 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-09-09, 16:26   #454
CRGreathouse
 
CRGreathouse's Avatar
 
Aug 2006

3×1,993 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3.14159 View Post
An example of a 2a * 3b + 1 prime:

243 * 3796 + 1 is prime.
Erdős-Selfridge class 1- primes, Sloane's A005109. The biggest known, as far as I can tell, is 2648553 * 3256 + 1. (Edit: See below.)

Last fiddled with by CRGreathouse on 2010-09-09 at 16:46
CRGreathouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-09-09, 16:30   #455
3.14159
 
3.14159's Avatar
 
May 2010
Prime hunting commission.

69016 Posts
Default

Actually, it is 3 * 25082306 + 1. (1529928 digits)

Never specified anything against 321 primes.

The largest 2 * 3n +1 prime is where n = 1175232, apparently, at about 560729 digits.

Last fiddled with by 3.14159 on 2010-09-09 at 16:35
3.14159 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-09-09, 16:42   #456
CRGreathouse
 
CRGreathouse's Avatar
 
Aug 2006

10111010110112 Posts
Default

Good call. My search was for
Code:
^[23]^%*[23]^%+1$
but I should have also checked
Code:
^[23]*[23]^%+1$
and
Code:
^[23]^%+1$
(not that more Fermat primes are likely...)

Of course technically the % is over-broad, but [[:digit:]]{1,} is so verbose...!

Last fiddled with by CRGreathouse on 2010-09-09 at 16:45
CRGreathouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-09-09, 16:51   #457
3.14159
 
3.14159's Avatar
 
May 2010
Prime hunting commission.

32208 Posts
Default

Quick PRP: 17212* 318860 + 1 (9003 digits)

Gained a spot for items 5 and 20:

Code:
17212*3^18860 + 1 may be prime. (a = 2)
17212*3^18860 + 1 is prime! (a = 5) [9003 digits]
I'll post the decimal expansion here:

Code:
552962080195460110567759587723652300261049730437483300121779312287569322854502429939330107423571434534829709195786019144253642385982949557384000210392178894662184296907769197923921000992532678577860269338230790818726641859166199289571340406818540899545013288617900473378394389686410091293280482125986137115184714581006544027076712065950916147169638721277925229128779732666729066598939550402258119717907349397914770414125197200892121435509770044104894801346403120591020092678242311254011896792234543191204304785326466418616797969701586012776741503059607965164082560013899521974600711045232871870579398575788942883851612069137773612153473057116991666268562470075758074755495320840998725812000286473508418775150586973734160799535668257946262862502919115814534651999431644568657865321433922542538909778536354617074682737998518556773020302871980636311960218567547351397602622076077407386351843980898453200177212060609268805029343618304667889837382384373196876909981758994302982909760374918995459620487098165411734898307804122882400362265593911569839331616992338721643007641246575112984521251027132526314930918494222903429441455699635299336495023021123257434220128286622985875556008359893892697910457070977018671382420348808017784773041664939230657380984034853210513517037849712660546139371383012552679255879584968811949682784145717942695834650759242663715680388784811748497868840771243085932635375308890401829144244362609725232447920181849469663324762726532093515452736371524589351292280109064196293033233291886812399235275194193466674610026827978176237252552420638154543135654652213025420962437542535392933068433875014127926977813829109008980920099908484224115684153659377316678917406069933846979442066423025608462090814256512129293255494027447335807157838934589357581740823910242050351464016855074035704541336753307696456934358867181381663855003260881922739418869493212325292712665155844890700424144431086008360171445030893581809553844230104107583624665531092596123033586126073400844787163231466690116678483015187376951556950680357335376408777046544718537419473666736250976391462190776181802143140220856356196357593114556981655181644250883022488006652491557970511295219922153579374431368921478068073617778895073208117772376564488654223019231943098480394090720144764443069864496551178950716680565420491842005613916344195606663206666249751503130993272825618304752203360471275398382495438952841253174291854486777411636718185465479993449114674790815761948015600229824834011626008444021298824612900162860861475734261373745948556424446311888378520479496783557300272256028154082052436411855070042906711092337703475679082989160076247724564309084475338190528344602701867006432503119065338300485041108266390448867116228522024779050571252142088366077963949669435028753893592044256274075901553869480471010338994497106095130303206305941260150780035030326216467992389566460896997837792485871465624809101171406758544362371314663658345399579611933448399358646416161920299909146245318365870874423584130424188305441367795522154352205375858537980201726357015566368795699809706576523345080184042471674415619893549687172525022594972454527010166781254155336608169943181121558801459280594841015658485030394891713072996874197359738007120649147457963770446000508710007289713678937527588143111810526818418684782902904933414391462135353535349744115135555536671054382998625208543358830762210883908961477659593175468557556457311129161108522492669619001104197330406809376353331267624366101727528931421175954568729509884043443182812887797603111300302636423652111494922552965487951934910176640611710505523551935427839946740679892742586159782698760164012216865789318082406882171376226144005617811151139644892995650407638366052822764167992636733151654811385955687181895470888515129746470921957380664906865760383489745564549030160906780533283188615702025057681175136950862176866083090529759496337673213206195138729081795725729327024121638541334291235166827546935540232281413296335422028798877782138796455353084534169700138590175420792304772348261121778897590249950920822834359668794980861284941442397120038615289732520211245108597238039241211554571562915212355135518925829055104972393882966277204175323124378465722504136110948458100633367477398010300807105661307627821248786080672313047124772354237739859942330159871945528292050734106337762420624172131095695637198855559747427019094748896175983786126498296458433080494669534716615237753960990392946118686942364229731866528451984921142199919327948098088812340295894998665905158530235256530618322614274964287326030574194903942526224663439020563451320826279378685967171478805853245100934780617729872563745399952412559394193012370492588927511497254083768772708170570010568207479037880675149177504083006969343240784906670461691688822178101717101695963735167264846588913382747128285888560424521552680414337748560189957065143000936929123007799690167665556669315690772914625022687988794205188024897369981532946307624190427077212165223675656222727248458020440634192432109614118078657032182452062472223429073575330751434013856927206414927854520717566388530279631898545578084801687905229916775828942257321740347534923242774461854784113350600775273575933209404367953580384963942281935115876727214212313180051691716403080322370328914661011616602619292474316058706122621095625670905619608670175009998756688358532573137962363328290651266396444758808133376324999663174443899740642785097975668551067947973602018659524783754986219308495334271044922946423600207910146363388546826319256110037899513478152850581351166879380257015462314890194905660536827463083105030881819559631000483357937012056189528581421736182927831069409621089202800472196101980420443529899917943092744828801486876366016172893150043769657686660801740411707444109480099625371191396060583443188574225029045756690415629357923462049339582829491050254715821738746687794106328392422617730717268148005332996053888589431137939081931853382210486001298673576705896863470833034728603166161087761443111027931250903994677841259865344103851692830341871817026502695232229135974073391190979565731531236575076227266778478577836291778508302688575775979962481110257558814941288753871115736711451759070220503483373223246744429102700907291108541109945078312331799530594142851984644035590617716694260806260701124138489366456395689220837406345852432645341899848380112930397438914958862814875996228054578763417396732531440483425217151240986532145353076875797556935480574525438761888410901223654656589972611907622009109713263336454988472303895115387860195452530392534776349723387673532312623886834191144453075998708625389520679310452548245739763043115535315253474261055004632634420503377716696951318723888225425792939689647517862292639129958972847571778823079219522779981994423405085229697196180124021910560936232404358448454276143008538558265686091593280509772907729862255358186653007505614157071418362031582383808967602007476687155529489539908388109167116626234863821193042266592596825065855321929219250662562138399660105609351051701677316338177833280268678064001604880430302303509768788178662078790230370688264307986500771276144042521173224763404011803971685682993229338331008611278910534372512419318549537213292562617806649648268187278731371457531406762193858118222836969238903155159409068415852058951299899179327142583673245586390326320084971394530782543923859299091933602460859335100215501390783418013560267842836219322304117175579951551298131403318439743283281134985383891416984308073493773921563816355535464005648713260369315429782553905443146697101422691073377493613597734224800983083523567539311714689066452659887404058139545507597832133567785249056943470725317642433160130020895826203961750137490239328343746019111447437842093222754741643957467074546613453221074220032003572011436337747442862711755037025318343044627295880495525480965802868480000043760622362817284999390243691160534561575146607255379305821346569725649693948834545509344120695090267365500142952441678576952360087271024926140619433670330875577854469634041657887880533018313910125040662150488808373829343410451844581101255484204924404740165320369713716088998517336252129436952448145334119358173317589017894152522212046662375124317480284505131845001063453236113377854858980226945063028092467075515949830873442787858137300662139106268885966917073401159957331942768276809991498410841225050572364856220357096428407748231487724998830971845496890122064563323986132565362101164929277675891561363281934588636835710512914276948109173334173105447107806318988910033365162440454479137835788611424500045147147165302708347929998439824718675502786340666910500685394292256039514454721708467396662298647902066250236313677743096364320783106014062088400876163205397359430368364978629091115774514328750715645169135747294539425052409859920547790897107608725280040064936297045561791616493272941524902560573294623690604015791846748880172623618231280966605759780286812882357760868842127112167576487482756379800867254454279658122264191872025903909636083123399373032931167634808629923420407496725923072861267739487613

Last fiddled with by 3.14159 on 2010-09-09 at 16:54
3.14159 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-09-09, 18:17   #458
3.14159
 
3.14159's Avatar
 
May 2010
Prime hunting commission.

24×3×5×7 Posts
Default

Next PRP: 27841 * 1211280 + 1. (12178 digits)

Verification of primality:

Code:
Primality testing 27841*12^11280+1 [N-1, Brillhart-Lehmer-Selfridge]
Running N-1 test using base 5
Special modular reduction using zero-padded FFT length 5K on 27841*12^11280+1
Calling Brillhart-Lehmer-Selfridge with factored part 55.77%
27841*12^11280+1 is prime! (4.0765s+0.0009s)
Another for item 2.

Last fiddled with by 3.14159 on 2010-09-09 at 18:53
3.14159 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-09-09, 22:46   #459
3.14159
 
3.14159's Avatar
 
May 2010
Prime hunting commission.

69016 Posts
Default

The largest small prime (Less than 1000 digits) :

Code:
999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999993899
Followed by the smallest prime of 1000 digits:
Code:
1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000007
There are ≈ 4.349182827963454639308289810704221769 * 10996 small primes.

Last fiddled with by 3.14159 on 2010-09-09 at 22:50
3.14159 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-09-09, 23:53   #460
CRGreathouse
 
CRGreathouse's Avatar
 
Aug 2006

3·1,993 Posts
Default

See
http://oeis.org/classic/A074282
for other small gigantic primes. I don't know if there is a similar sequence on the other side.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3.14159 View Post
There are ≈ 4.349182827963454639308289810704221769 * 10996 small primes.
Your value is off by a factor of 10. Also, don't show so many decimals -- most of what you give is wrong, even when the exponent is corrected.

Last fiddled with by CRGreathouse on 2010-09-09 at 23:56
CRGreathouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-09-10, 00:10   #461
kar_bon
 
kar_bon's Avatar
 
Mar 2006
Germany

22×727 Posts
Default

... and 10^999-6251 is the next smaller prime with 999 digits.
kar_bon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2010-09-10, 01:21   #462
3.14159
 
3.14159's Avatar
 
May 2010
Prime hunting commission.

32208 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles
Your value is off by a factor of 10. Also, don't show so many decimals -- most of what you give is wrong, even when the exponent is corrected.
As if what you give is any more correct.
3.14159 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Prime posting thread, part 2. (With a catch.) 3.14159 Miscellaneous Math 55 2010-11-19 23:55
Tiny range request .... 555.1M petrw1 LMH > 100M 1 2010-07-13 15:35
Other primes thread nuggetprime No Prime Left Behind 32 2009-10-21 21:48
Error: tiny factoring failed 10metreh Msieve 26 2009-03-08 23:28
Tiny error on nfsnet pages. antiroach NFSNET Discussion 1 2003-07-08 00:27

All times are UTC. The time now is 22:54.


Fri Aug 6 22:54:44 UTC 2021 up 14 days, 17:23, 1 user, load averages: 4.42, 4.22, 3.99

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum has received and complied with 0 (zero) government requests for information.

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation.
A copy of the license is included in the FAQ.