Windows 7 / Ubuntu dual boot system? - Page 2

Andi47 · 2010-04-04, 14:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by flouran

9.04 fails for me. Try 9.10.

It really does not matter which OS you install first. I would first install Windows 7. Then, I would install Ubuntu, that way GRUB (or LILO, but I personally have never used LILO) will be the default bootloader. Next, you can create a new boot option in the GRUB menu and use chainloader to access the Windows partition.

My apologies for not being too detailed here, but if you take the time to research these ideas further and make a lot of mistakes along the way, my vague outline should start to make some sense

Also, be a man and don't use Wubi!

Is this just as straightforward as for installing Ubuntu when Win XP is already installed? (I have some experience with that, but not yet with Win 7.)

lfm · 2010-04-04, 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andi47

Is this just as straightforward as for installing Ubuntu when Win XP is already installed? (I have some experience with that, but not yet with Win 7.)

I think MS-Win XP, Vista and 7 should be the same so far as the boot loaders go.

frmky · 2010-04-04, 17:21

All this bootloader nonsense is why I like Wubi. Rather than battling bootloaders, Wubi uses the Windows bootloader so later installs/upgrades of either system don't mess things up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by flouran

Also, be a man and don't use Wubi!

I prefer spending my time using my tools rather than polishing them.

jasong · 2010-04-24, 00:12

This thread is offensive. ;)

Every reasonably intelligent person knows that Linux is the God of OSes. Dual-boot? Are you insane? Windows 7 is evil. At best, all it deserves is a virtual machine in your Linux OS of choice, then you boot into W7 as little as humanly possible.

I refuse to rely on an OS run by a CEO named Steve.

LONG LIVE THE PENGUIN!!!

Linus Torvalds isn't God, but he'll do in a pinch.

Seriously, though, Windows is a cancer, you need to get in the Linux forums where you'll find replacements for most anything you think you need, except for games.

pinhodecarlos · 2011-12-22, 10:47

The wubi.exe file is 2.4MB in size so I suppose it will download the OS from ubuntu server while installing. Will it appear which ubuntu version to install?

After installing Ubuntu on windows is there an option to choose which OS to start when computer restarts after a crash or when electricity goes down?

Is Ubuntu the fastest linux 64 bits OS? I intend to use linux to run gnfs-lasieve....
Can you guys point me to a few tutorials on how to mess with linux? I'm a windows guy since I was born...

Carlos

paulunderwood · 2011-12-22, 13:04

It should go something like this:

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer

It looks like the default operating system is Windows, from the boot loader GRUB, but this can be changed later on.

There are plenty of examples of how to use Gnome or Unity desktops, as well as bash commands. Some bash commands include:

man (try man man)
apropos
whatis
ls
cat
cd
rm
mv

You have the facilities to do things graphically too.

Try to run things as a normal user and beware of people giving to dangerous things to do like:

sudo rm -fr /

which, as root, attempts to remove everything starting at /, and will trash your system.

pinhodecarlos · 2011-12-22, 13:49

Thank you Paul.
Under windows to remotely control the machine I want to install linux I use logmein free edition, is there something equivalent for linux?

Carlos

Edit: To access the linux machine I will be using always Windows machines.

paulunderwood · 2011-12-22, 14:20

If you install ssh2-server on Ubuntu, you can use Putty on Windows for access. However to make a program continue after you log out, you will need some trickery like "nohup".

There maybe something else if you have changing IP addresses... maybe this:
https://secure.logmein.com/labs/

EdH · 2011-12-23, 23:13

I find Ubuntu to be more friendly than Fedora to the math workings for Aliqueit, msieve, YAFU, GGNFS, etc.

If you are interested, I have a page that describes how to set up Aliqueit on an Ubuntu machine, which includes all the sub packages like msieve, GGNFS, YAFU, ECM, etc. It is located at:

Steps to install and set up Aliqueit on an Ubuntu computer

Christenson · 2011-12-24, 19:53

Call me a pragmatist...I'm at a point where I use whatever OS is on the machine...As with Frmky, I prefer to spend my time USING my tools, not polishing them...and an OS is like a pencil...it is a tool, and only a tool.

Not that I don't prefer some form or other of Linux...but Windows will do in a pinch. So will an Apple...or no OS at all, for embedded projects I work on.

pinhodecarlos · 2011-12-26, 19:21

Well....after starting the installation of ubuntu in my second hard drive (I didn't want to install ubuntu in the same drive where windows 7 was installed because I was already expecting the worse...) a reboot was asked. I did it but nothing happened. I rebooted twice and I got the boot menu where was possible to choose which OS. Ubuntu was then chosen but nothing happened again, just a bunch of lines of kernel blablabla...stayed there for more than 20 mins. Conclusion: I gave up and back to windows for a RSALS post-processing. Oh well...next year I'll give it a try with more heart and patience.

Carlos

2011-12-22, 10:47	#16
pinhodecarlos "Carlos Pinho" Oct 2011 Milton Keynes, UK 3·17·97 Posts	The wubi.exe file is 2.4MB in size so I suppose it will download the OS from ubuntu server while installing. Will it appear which ubuntu version to install? After installing Ubuntu on windows is there an option to choose which OS to start when computer restarts after a crash or when electricity goes down? Is Ubuntu the fastest linux 64 bits OS? I intend to use linux to run gnfs-lasieve.... Can you guys point me to a few tutorials on how to mess with linux? I'm a windows guy since I was born... Carlos Last fiddled with by pinhodecarlos on 2011-12-22 at 10:52

2011-12-22, 13:04	#17
paulunderwood Sep 2002 Database er0rr 3,739 Posts	It should go something like this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer It looks like the default operating system is Windows, from the boot loader GRUB, but this can be changed later on. There are plenty of examples of how to use Gnome or Unity desktops, as well as bash commands. Some bash commands include: man (try man man) apropos whatis ls cat cd rm mv You have the facilities to do things graphically too. Try to run things as a normal user and beware of people giving to dangerous things to do like: sudo rm -fr / which, as root, attempts to remove everything starting at /, and will trash your system. Last fiddled with by paulunderwood on 2011-12-22 at 13:06

2011-12-22, 13:49	#18
pinhodecarlos "Carlos Pinho" Oct 2011 Milton Keynes, UK 3×17×97 Posts	Thank you Paul. Under windows to remotely control the machine I want to install linux I use logmein free edition, is there something equivalent for linux? Carlos Edit: To access the linux machine I will be using always Windows machines. Last fiddled with by pinhodecarlos on 2011-12-22 at 13:57

2011-12-22, 14:20	#19
paulunderwood Sep 2002 Database er0rr 3,739 Posts	If you install ssh2-server on Ubuntu, you can use Putty on Windows for access. However to make a program continue after you log out, you will need some trickery like "nohup". There maybe something else if you have changing IP addresses... maybe this: https://secure.logmein.com/labs/ Last fiddled with by paulunderwood on 2011-12-22 at 14:30

2011-12-26, 19:21	#22
pinhodecarlos "Carlos Pinho" Oct 2011 Milton Keynes, UK 4947₁₀ Posts	Well....after starting the installation of ubuntu in my second hard drive (I didn't want to install ubuntu in the same drive where windows 7 was installed because I was already expecting the worse...) a reboot was asked. I did it but nothing happened. I rebooted twice and I got the boot menu where was possible to choose which OS. Ubuntu was then chosen but nothing happened again, just a bunch of lines of kernel blablabla...stayed there for more than 20 mins. Conclusion: I gave up and back to windows for a RSALS post-processing. Oh well...next year I'll give it a try with more heart and patience. Carlos Last fiddled with by pinhodecarlos on 2011-12-26 at 19:24

2010-04-24, 00:12	#15
jasong "Jason Goatcher" Mar 2005 3×7×167 Posts	This thread is offensive. ;) Every reasonably intelligent person knows that Linux is the God of OSes. Dual-boot? Are you insane? Windows 7 is evil. At best, all it deserves is a virtual machine in your Linux OS of choice, then you boot into W7 as little as humanly possible. I refuse to rely on an OS run by a CEO named Steve. LONG LIVE THE PENGUIN!!! Linus Torvalds isn't God, but he'll do in a pinch. Seriously, though, Windows is a cancer, you need to get in the Linux forums where you'll find replacements for most anything you think you need, except for games.

2011-12-23, 23:13	#20
EdH "Ed Hall" Dec 2009 Adirondack Mtns 7351₈ Posts	I find Ubuntu to be more friendly than Fedora to the math workings for Aliqueit, msieve, YAFU, GGNFS, etc. If you are interested, I have a page that describes how to set up Aliqueit on an Ubuntu machine, which includes all the sub packages like msieve, GGNFS, YAFU, ECM, etc. It is located at: Steps to install and set up Aliqueit on an Ubuntu computer

2011-12-24, 19:53	#21
Christenson Dec 2010 Monticello 5·359 Posts	Call me a pragmatist...I'm at a point where I use whatever OS is on the machine...As with Frmky, I prefer to spend my time USING my tools, not polishing them...and an OS is like a pencil...it is a tool, and only a tool. Not that I don't prefer some form or other of Linux...but Windows will do in a pinch. So will an Apple...or no OS at all, for embedded projects I work on.

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