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"Tim Sorbera"
Aug 2006
San Antonio, TX USA
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My first idea was to do it purely with a sieve program, but considering k's with trivial factors, MOBs, etc. I figured it'd be too complicated to bypass the PFGW script completely. So I decided to try using PFGW to n=0 (essentially just eliminating trivial factors and MOBs) followed by srsieve. Srsieve doesn't know to stop searching a number and declare it prime when it passes the square root of it, (only when you pass the number itself) so you have to manually set the max p to the square root of the largest number. That works, and is significantly faster (not drastically faster, but significant...maybe about 15% faster) than using PFGW to n=1, but doesn't eliminate the k's from the file by itself. And my remove-ks.pl script isn't very good at doing that many different k's. So in the end, I figured it's probably fastest (not to mention way easier!) to just use PFGW with the max n set to 1.
Here are the timings I found: Code:
k=1 to 10,000: PFGW n=0: 7 CPU seconds (checks for trivial factors and MOB) PFGW n=1: 10 CPU seconds srsieve: <1 CPU second k=1 to 100,000: PFGW n=0: (no -f) 56 CPU seconds PFGW n=0: (-f) 57 CPU seconds srsieve: 24 CPU seconds (56+24=80 CPU seconds) PFGW n=1: (no -f) 95 CPU seconds PFGW n=1: (no -f, minimized to tray) 88 CPU seconds PFGW n=1: (-f) 95 CPU seconds k=1885767586974 to 1885767686974 (final 100k): PFGW n=1: (no -f) 115 CPU seconds PFGW n=1: (-f) 121 CPU seconds ![]() Looks like there is no big difference between using -f and not for numbers this small. For the record, I ran srsieve with these options: Code:
srsieve -n1 -N1 -P8939 -q -Z -G pl_remain.txt Last fiddled with by Mini-Geek on 2010-01-24 at 16:04 |
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May 2008
Wilmington, DE
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May 2008
Wilmington, DE
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Riesel Base 919
Conjectured k = 24 Covering Set = 5, 23 Trivial Factors k == 1 mod 2(2) and k == 1 mod 3(3) and k == 1 mod 17(17) Found Primes: 2*919^4-1 6*919^11-1 8*919^1-1 12*919^1-1 14*919^2-1 20*919^1-1 Trivial Factor Eliminations: 5k's Conjecture Proven |
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May 2008
Wilmington, DE
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Riesel Base 924
Conjectured k = 36 Covering Set = 5, 37 Trivial Factors k == 1 mod 13(13) and k == 1 mod 71(71) Found Primes: 30k's File attached Remaining k's: 4*924^n-1 <------ Proven composite by partial algebraic factors 9*924^n-1 <------ Proven composite by partial algebraic factors Trivial Factor Eliminations: 2k's Conjecture Proven Last fiddled with by MyDogBuster on 2014-09-02 at 09:15 |
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May 2008
Wilmington, DE
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Riesel Base 934
Conjectured k = 21 Covering Set = 5, 11 Trivial Factors k == 1 mod 3(3) and k == 1 mod 311(311) Found Primes: 12k's File attached Remaining k's: 9*934^n-1 <------ Proven composite by partial algebraic factors Trivial Factor Eliminations: 6k's Conjecture Proven Last fiddled with by MyDogBuster on 2014-09-02 at 09:15 |
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Just call me Henry
"David"
Sep 2007
Cambridge (GMT/BST)
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Using maxima i have found the following algebraic factorizations:
64*633^(2*n)-1=(8*633^n-1)*(8*633^n+1) 64*633^(3*n)-1=(4*633^n-1)*(16*633^(2*n)+4*633^n+1) which leaves 1 and 5 mod 6 n=1 and 5 mod 12 are divisible by 17 which leaves 7 and 11 mod 12 after that there doesnt seem to me anything else obvious that would form a covering set basically one third of n values are left after algebraic factorizations and half of them are eliminated by the trivial factor 17 so it is possible to test just one sixth of candidates |
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Just call me Henry
"David"
Sep 2007
Cambridge (GMT/BST)
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after a sieve to 1e8 there arent that many to remove anyway
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Read 4985 terms for 1 sequence from NewPGen format file `t17_b633_k64.npg'. 64*633^n-1: n = 1*m+0, 4985 terms n = 3 (mod 12): 338 terms n = 4 (mod 12): 265 terms n = 7 (mod 12): 2258 terms n = 11 (mod 12): 2124 terms |
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Just call me Henry
"David"
Sep 2007
Cambridge (GMT/BST)
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More discoveries
![]() More sieving without removal decreases the percentage of candidates that have algebraic factors. At 1e10 only 10.2% of the file would be removed. It is however worthwhile removing them as it doubles the speed of the sieve when using sr1sieve. ![]() Are there any other bases with complex algebraic factors like riesel 633? If so what bases? |
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Quasi Admin Thing
May 2005
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Again, for now, it is remaining in the test file, at least up to n=25K, so everything should be good and fine for now ![]() Regards KEP |
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Just call me Henry
"David"
Sep 2007
Cambridge (GMT/BST)
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the k does need to be tested as far as i can tell although i wouldnt do anything serious until gary posts to remove the ns with algebraic factors use the perl script in post #64 of this thread to remove ns that are 0 mod 2 and 0 mod 3 i have attached a file sieved to 1e10 for that k with the algebraic factors removed |
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May 2008
Wilmington, DE
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Riesel Base 939
Conjectured k = 46 Covering Set = 5, 47 Trivial Factors k == 1 mod 2(2) and k == 1 mod 7(7) and k == 1 mod 67(67) Found Primes: 18k's File attached Remaining k's: 4*939^n-1 <------ Proven composite by partial algebraic factors Trivial Factor Eliminations: 3k's Conjecture Proven Last fiddled with by MyDogBuster on 2014-09-02 at 09:15 |
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