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Old 2010-04-23, 05:45   #331
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Riesel base 401, k=68.
Primes:
2*401^112-1
4*401^3-1
8*401^140-1
10*401^77-1
12*401^2-1
14*401^2-1
18*401^2-1
20*401^10-1
22*401^1-1
24*401^1-1
28*401^21-1
30*401^61-1
32*401^2-1
34*401^1-1
40*401^3-1
42*401^7-1
44*401^6-1
48*401^6-1
50*401^2-1
52*401^7-1
54*401^2-1
58*401^15-1
60*401^2-1
62*401^8-1
64*401^23-1

1k's remain: 38*401^n-1
Trivially factors: 7 k's.

Base completed to 25K and released.
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Old 2010-04-23, 10:31   #332
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Unconnected,

One new base per day please while I'm out of town as requested in the news thread. Thanks.


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Old 2010-04-23, 10:39   #333
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I haven't posted any in a few days, so in keeping with an average of one per day...

Primes found:

2*455^2-1
4*455^3-1
6*455^1-1
8*455^2-1
10*455^1-1
12*455^8-1
14*455^20-1
16*455^5-1
18*455^198-1

With a conjectured k of 20, this conjecture is proven.

2*413^6-1
4*413^23-1
6*413^1-1
8*413^4-1
10*413^1-1
12*413^2-1
14*413^20-1
16*413^1-1
18*413^1-1
20*413^4-1

With a conjectured k of 22, this conjecture is proven.

2*340^60-1
3*340^1-1
5*340^1-1
6*340^1-1
8*340^1-1
9*340^3-1
11*340^1-1
12*340^1-1
14*340^1-1
15*340^1-1
17*340^1-1
18*340^22-1
20*340^12-1
21*340^2-1
23*340^3-1
24*340^4-1
26*340^1-1
27*340^2-1
29*340^1-1
30*340^2-1

The other k have trivial factors. With a conjectured k of 32, this conjecture is proven.

This doesn't work. I never said anything about averages. 1 max per day please. I was beginning to feel a little relief from not so many being posted and then I'm unloaded on here right before a very busy weekend where I'll have no time for updates. Had you posted one per day, I could have kept up. Taken to extreme, you could hold 200 of them and then post them all 200 days from now. The idea is to not back me up please.

I'm getting close to stopping adding any new bases to the pages for 3-6 months. From my perspective, they are becoming completely pointless, especially the small ones. The only reason I did the Sierp k=8 conjectures was to slowly finish off what KEP had started and at least somewhat bring them up closer to the Riesel side.

I have an idea. Since I believe you said you've already proven a gob of bases that you are hold off posting at the moment, how about creating a web page that shows them all in a format similar to the ones that I do? That would be helpful. If fully correct, I may be able to cut-and-paste them to mine.


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Old 2010-04-23, 10:50   #334
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If you would like Gary, I wouldn't mind helping you create the HTML code, for the unstarted bases. If you would like that, you can e-mail me the details of what part of HTML you would like for me to create, and what information you would like to have embedded in the cells of the tables, in order for you to accept it. Maybe this can help you, and too be honest I wouldn't mind using some time on creating the HTML code, such that you only need to COPY+PASTE whenever a new base is started, and then add the nescessary information for top10 primes and k's remaining.

I suggest that for bases with k>1M, it should be safe to create the HTML sites like we know them for Riesel base 3, where you only will have to add the k's remaining and the starting aswell as update date

But anyway, if you're interested, in my offer, let's discuss it further via e-mail.

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This doesn't work. I never said anything about averages. 1 max per day please.
I can abide by that.

I have about 60 proven, but not posted. Most of the remaining are on the Sierpinski side. I'll take a look at your HTML and see what I can do. That would certainly make both of us happy. For me, it means less posting. For you, using cut and paste will save you a lot of time.

But if you accept KEP's help, then maybe I could just pass my results to him and he could assist you more directly in keeping the HTML up to date.

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Old 2010-04-23, 12:39   #336
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Primes found:

2*371^8-1
4*371^1-1
8*371^2-1
10*371^1-1
12*371^1-1
14*371^2-1
18*371^3-1
20*371^44-1
22*371^1-1
24*371^2-1
28*371^111-1
30*371^24-1

The other k have trivial factors. With a conjectured k of 32, this conjecture is proven.
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I can abide by that.

I have about 60 proven, but not posted. Most of the remaining are on the Sierpinski side. I'll take a look at your HTML and see what I can do. That would certainly make both of us happy. For me, it means less posting. For you, using cut and paste will save you a lot of time.

But if you accept KEP's help, then maybe I could just pass my results to him and he could assist you more directly in keeping the HTML up to date.
Rogue, if you could send me the proven conjectures, I'll work them into the HTML code. I just realized, that most of the HTML coding on the main site, is just about Copy+Paste, of the HTML code for each untested bases on the Rielse side, to the Sierpinski side, and then of course "just" change the conjecture, the covering set and the trvial factors. But a smart thing is that the trivial factors is the same on both sides, so all Gary has to add, once I complete the HTML, nothing later than next weekend, is to add the primes to the new bases currently untested and add algebraric factors. But if you could send me the proven conjectures (add Gary as cc please) then I'll show them as proven in the HTML coding.

And Gary, now I'm taking a week of my time, creating all the basic HTML for the Riesel, Sierpinski side, aswell the remaining reservations HTML, so please hold back on doing your own HTML work, since there is no reason we are doing double efforts on that kind of work, and just await that I send you the HTML coding and then copy+paste my HTML code.

The code I'm working from, is by the way an exact copy+paste of the current way that your HTML code is designed, so it should be easy for you to understand, what kind of information to put where. But again, those that I recieve as proven, I'll of course have them shown as proven in the HTML codes

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Rogue, if you could send me the proven conjectures, I'll work them into the HTML code. I just realized, that most of the HTML coding on the main site, is just about Copy+Paste, of the HTML code for each untested bases on the Rielse side, to the Sierpinski side, and then of course "just" change the conjecture, the covering set and the trvial factors. But a smart thing is that the trivial factors is the same on both sides, so all Gary has to add, once I complete the HTML, nothing later than next weekend, is to add the primes to the new bases currently untested and add algebraric factors. But if you could send me the proven conjectures (add Gary as cc please) then I'll show them as proven in the HTML coding.
You've got mail! I did not cc Gary. I suspect he has enough to deal with.
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You've got mail! I did not cc Gary. I suspect he has enough to deal with.
Thanks for your mails Rogue, I'll download the data sometime this weekend, first I'll prepare and complete the Riesel side, and then I'll start preparing the Sierpinski side

I'll of course, add those bases that you send me, as complete, and add the primes to the HTML code. But again I can't promise to have anything usefull completed before next weekend and as mentioned, I'll take the Riesel side first (since it appears that there is most activity there) and then I'll do the Sierpinski side.

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Thanks for your mails Rogue, I'll download the data sometime this weekend, first I'll prepare and complete the Riesel side, and then I'll start preparing the Sierpinski side

I'll of course, add those bases that you send me, as complete, and add the primes to the HTML code. But again I can't promise to have anything usefull completed before next weekend and as mentioned, I'll take the Riesel side first (since it appears that there is most activity there) and then I'll do the Sierpinski side.
I'm in no hurry for them to be posted, but I suppose I could send the list to Gary so that he can remove them from the "Untested Sierpinski" thread.

If you have a Windoze box with Excel, it should be possible to put all of the data into a spreadsheet and then use a VB script to generate the HTML. With the script it would be possible to put data into multiple cells in the spreadsheet then combine them into one cell in the HTML.

Writing such as script would take some time, but for maintenance of the HTML it should be huge time saver long term. I use this method on ProthSearch to generate the tables. Granted that is far easier than what is needed on this project. For ProthSearch a hundred lines of VB script generates thousands of lines of HTML.

If you are interested (and Gary doesn't object), I could help you with such a script.
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I'm in no hurry for them to be posted, but I suppose I could send the list to Gary so that he can remove them from the "Untested Sierpinski" thread.

If you have a Windoze box with Excel, it should be possible to put all of the data into a spreadsheet and then use a VB script to generate the HTML. With the script it would be possible to put data into multiple cells in the spreadsheet then combine them into one cell in the HTML.

Writing such as script would take some time, but for maintenance of the HTML it should be huge time saver long term. I use this method on ProthSearch to generate the tables. Granted that is far easier than what is needed on this project. For ProthSearch a hundred lines of VB script generates thousands of lines of HTML.

If you are interested (and Gary doesn't object), I could help you with such a script.
It sounds nice with such a script. I'm not sure you can make it in time for my posting next weekend (or sooner), but for future updates, I'm sure Gary at least would like it. I know not much about using vbscript in a spreadsheet, but if it can update the tables so there is no flaws, and very little time is used, then it deffinently is worth looking into.

I think that it will be a good idea to send the list to Gary, such that no other start these bases, since I'll (even though I have to do it manually) add them in the Sierpinski code.

To be honest, I found out, that I could save tons of typing, by using a spreadsheet to create the main code regarding the 499 Riesel codes, and since most of the Riesel bases can be copy pasted to the Sierpinski side, only very little effort is needed compared to what I initially had to do

If you can make a VB script, that can create the sub-pages (i.e. like R3, S3 and other conjectures with >25 k's remaining), then I'll not make those subpages, since it will require quite a lot of work/processes (even though I only have to change the base and type "save as"), that it would be need to avoid

But how fast Rogue could you potentially have such a vbscript working?
Can you make a vbscript that can create a new HTML file for different bases like those subpages that we know from R3? (and how fast, you think)?

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