Things that make you go "Hmmmm…"

[retina]

Originally Posted by http://www.computerworld.com/article/2929471/emerging-technology/fab-plants-are-now-making-superfast-carbon-nanotube-memory.html

According to Nantero, NRAM can withstand 10¹² write cycles and 10¹⁵ read cycles -- an almost infinite number.

Hahahahaha. Sure, "almost" infinite.

[LaurV]

Originally Posted by retina

Hahahahaha. Sure, "almost" infinite.

Yeah, I was also reading that when the link was posted, and laughing, considering that at the speed the RAM operates (say "only 100 kilo-writings per second", in a very "conservative" way), this 10^12 means only about 2500 hours of use. HOURS, not days.
OTOH, if you intend to use it as non-volatile, and compare it with actual FLASH-es, (10^4 to 10^7 writing cycles, depending on the application, MCU, IIC-EEPROM, Flash-Disk, SSD, etc), then 10^12 is infinite... hehe.

Edit: what it will be really good for, it will reduce the booting time for your devices, and therefore the "standby consumption". This because the device will not need to be "shut down" anymore, in the sense that "shut down" means today. The non-volatile memories we use today (all enumerated above, and more) are either slow, either too expensive. So, if you want a device for which you don't lose your shirt to buy it, then you get a slow one. "Slow" means that you need to wait seconds/minutes when your device starts. To have it starting faster, you put it in different levels of "stand by" or "sleep" or "doze" etc, a state where the device keeps the stuff (running applications, peripherals, etc) in volatile memory, which is much faster, but it needs to use some power for it. The consequence is that your battery gets discharged. But your device "powers on" instantly when you need it. But it consumes battery... Well... Then we have some compromise as "hibernate", which still powers the device completely off, but saves the contents of the RAM first, on some non-volatile memory. So next time when you start the device up it saves you the time of launching all the applications (but you still have to wait the time for boot up). Having a cheap, super-fast, non-volatile memory, will help you put the device in a... "in place hibernation" state, i.e. there will be nothing to save and restore, so your device will still boot up extremely fast, it will keep your running applications and peripherals between restarts, so you don't need to waste the time reconfiguring it every time you start it, and it will in the same time, drain no power from the battery for the time it will be off.

[retina]

Originally Posted by LaurV

... if you intend to use it as non-volatile, and compare it with actual FLASH-es, (10^4 to 10^7 writing cycles, depending on the application, MCU, IIC-EEPROM, Flash-Disk, SSD, etc), then 10^12 is infinite... hehe

The 10¹⁵ read limit is also problematic. In that respect flash is infinite, but this NRAM is "almost" nothing in comparison.

[LaurV]

Yes, indeed. you are right here.
(no, i didn't want to approve you, i just replied to say that I edited my former post... )

[Xyzzy]

We are trying to identify this cool font. Any clues?

[ewmayer]

Originally Posted by Xyzzy

We are trying to identify this cool font. Any clues?

Looks like 1824 Overture sans serif to me.

Just kidding - haven't a clue, could be Cyrillic lettering from a Russian AA missile for all I know. (Hence my Tchaikovsky reference, subbing the trailing digits in the string for the Very Bad Year For The French Army In The East.)

[Batalov]

Looks like a Yamaha bike VIN number...

[science_man_88]

Originally Posted by Xyzzy

We are trying to identify this cool font. Any clues?

closest thing I've found is a type of san serif font called crushed: edit: okay maybe my eye thought it saw something it didn't.

[jasong]

Originally Posted by science_man_88

Fab plants are now making superfast carbon nanotube memory






so no worry about high temperature when overclocking I guess. I'd think it would be more worrying for other components.

The problem shows up when all this carbon nanotube/fiber starts showing up in landfills in large quantities. This stuff makes plastic look like the nancyboy of long-term(thousands of years) pollution. Plus, if any of the nanotubes start floating around because of, idk, a fire hitting an owner of nanotubes house, then everybody nearby possibly gets the joy of experiencing something way worse than asbestos in their lungs.

Nanotubes have a lot of potential, good and bad. We need to be damn careful as a society how we handle the technology that's coming out.

[Uncwilly]

Originally Posted by jasong

The problem shows up when all this carbon nanotube/fiber starts showing up in landfills in large quantities. This stuff makes plastic look like the nancyboy of long-term(thousands of years) pollution. Plus, if any of the nanotubes start floating around because of, idk, a fire hitting an owner of nanotubes house, then everybody nearby possibly gets the joy of experiencing something way worse than asbestos in their lungs.

Nanotubes have a lot of potential, good and bad. We need to be damn careful as a society how we handle the technology that's coming out.

Please cite some sources for your claims.

[retina]

Originally Posted by Uncwilly

Please cite some sources for your claims.

It is a scary new thing not mentioned in the bible so it must be evil. Bring back the horse and cart I say. All these new-fangled auto-mobiles and smarty-pants-phones should be banned also, those carbon monoxide and EM emissions ain't no good for ya all. Ya hear!