Challenge - Page 15

science_man_88 · 2009-08-18, 20:48

other than the c99 function all it would need is error (like perror) checking by what I was told

science_man_88 · 2009-08-18, 20:49

Okay maybe it needs a few more edits than that like instead of i writing in the form 2^i-1

science_man_88 · 2009-08-18, 20:59

another thing I found is one I tried (don't remember which one) seems that if it rounds up it rounds to 6 could it relate to perfect number and if I find it again and that's true could perfect numbers be used to find the other half ?

science_man_88 · 2009-08-18, 21:20

I have code that someone on bytes.com forum helped me with and if what I think I've found to be true for half of all Mersenne primes to date then I might change it a bit and build it with help from someone more experienced in C . if what I think is true and my program runs as planned within minutes of compiling and building it and running it a new possible mersenne prime to be checked will possibly break the world record with a 64 bit processor i think it should be able to find over half of all possible mersennes under 2 ^ 18 quintillion+ -1 . So anyone want to help me ?

science_man_88 · 2009-08-18, 22:06

43112639 seems possible but the other 2 I tried rounded to even numbers this rounds to an odd might be one to stay away from but you can try it if you want I'll try and find one that is close to an even answer

henryzz · 2009-08-18, 22:36

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Originally Posted by science_man_88

I have code that someone on bytes.com forum helped me with and if what I think I've found to be true for half of all Mersenne primes to date then I might change it a bit and build it with help from someone more experienced in C . if what I think is true and my program runs as planned within minutes of compiling and building it and running it a new possible mersenne prime to be checked will possibly break the world record with a 64 bit processor i think it should be able to find over half of all possible mersennes under 2 ^ 18 quintillion+ -1 . So anyone want to help me ?

Post your code and we might believe you and help you if it turns out to be true. Most claims like this are from cranks although occasionly huge discoveries are not believed because they are revolutionary so am willing to investigate if you post your code.

Mini-Geek · 2009-08-18, 22:47

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Originally Posted by henryzz

Post your code and we might believe you and help you if it turns out to be true.

He already posted his code in his Misc Math thread where it belongs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by henryzz

Most claims like this are from cranks although occasionly huge discoveries are not believed because they are revolutionary so am willing to investigate if you post your code.

I think he's demonstrated quite clearly that he is, in fact, a crank.

Uncwilly · 2009-08-18, 23:28

Can a mod start locking the doors that Science dude is opening?

Mini-Geek · 2009-08-18, 23:46

http://primes.utm.edu/notes/crackpot.html

(for conciseness, I won't list ones that result in 0)

Debits (evidence of 'crackpot'ness)

* Syntax
2. 5 points for every statement that is clearly vacuous, logically inconsistent, or widely agreed on to be false.
I'll estimate this to be 10 statements.
50
3. 10 points for each such statement that is adhered to despite careful correction.
same
50
4. 10 points for not knowing (or not using) standard mathematical notation.
check
10
* Subject and Claims
8. 20 points for each of the following conjectures that you purport to have solved: Goldbach's conjecture; twin prime conjecture; Riemann Hypothesis, GRH; Fermat's Last Theorem (*); infinitely many Mersennes, Fermats, primes of the form n^2+1...; or finding new patterns in the primes.
check
20
9. 20 points for talking about how great your theory is, but never actually explaining it.
check
20
* Hubris
11. 10 points for pointing out that you have gone to school, as if this were evidence of sanity.
check
10
14. 10 points for claiming that your work is revolutionary, a "paradigm shift," or a simple idea missed by all but you.
check
10
* Process and Proof
17. 10 points for expecting others to disprove your result(s) rather than providing the proof yourself.
check
10
22. 50 points for failing to respond to appropriate corrections, questions and challenges.
check
50

50+50+10+20+20+10+10+10+50=230

Uncwilly · 2009-08-19, 00:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mini-Geek

http://primes.utm.edu/notes/crackpot.html
Debits (evidence of 'crackpot'ness)

* Syntax

While not specified in #1 "1 point for each word in all capital letters.", one would like to add a few points for lack of punctuation, sentence division, and other problems with their mother tongue.

Also, a few bonus points are in order for the issues coding C and lack of knowledge about how one might find a free version of C. etc.

Mini-Geek · 2009-08-19, 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncwilly

While not specified in #1 "1 point for each word in all capital letters.", one would like to add a few points for lack of punctuation, sentence division, and other problems with their mother tongue.

Also, a few bonus points are in order for the issues coding C and lack of knowledge about how one might find a free version of C. etc.

Yeah, the crackpot index doesn't exactly tailor to this sort of crank.

2009-08-18, 21:20	#158
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dumbassville 10000011000000₂ Posts	Possible Prime finder I have code that someone on bytes.com forum helped me with and if what I think I've found to be true for half of all Mersenne primes to date then I might change it a bit and build it with help from someone more experienced in C . if what I think is true and my program runs as planned within minutes of compiling and building it and running it a new possible mersenne prime to be checked will possibly break the world record with a 64 bit processor i think it should be able to find over half of all possible mersennes under 2 ^ 18 quintillion+ -1 . So anyone want to help me ? Last fiddled with by science_man_88 on 2009-08-18 at 22:17

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2009-08-18, 20:48	#155
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dumbassville 2⁶·131 Posts	other than the c99 function all it would need is error (like perror) checking by what I was told

2009-08-18, 20:49	#156
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dumbassville 2⁶×131 Posts	Okay maybe it needs a few more edits than that like instead of i writing in the form 2^i-1

2009-08-18, 20:59	#157
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dumbassville 2⁶·131 Posts	another thing I found is one I tried (don't remember which one) seems that if it rounds up it rounds to 6 could it relate to perfect number and if I find it again and that's true could perfect numbers be used to find the other half ?

2009-08-18, 22:06	#159
science_man_88 "Forget I exist" Jul 2009 Dumbassville 20300₈ Posts	43112639 seems possible but the other 2 I tried rounded to even numbers this rounds to an odd might be one to stay away from but you can try it if you want I'll try and find one that is close to an even answer

2009-08-18, 23:28	#162
Uncwilly 6809 > 6502 """"""""""""""""""" Aug 2003 101×103 Posts 2·7·19·37 Posts	Can a mod start locking the doors that Science dude is opening?

2009-08-18, 23:46	#163
Mini-Geek Account Deleted "Tim Sorbera" Aug 2006 San Antonio, TX USA 10AB₁₆ Posts	http://primes.utm.edu/notes/crackpot.html (for conciseness, I won't list ones that result in 0) Debits (evidence of 'crackpot'ness) * Syntax 2. 5 points for every statement that is clearly vacuous, logically inconsistent, or widely agreed on to be false. I'll estimate this to be 10 statements. 50 3. 10 points for each such statement that is adhered to despite careful correction. same 50 4. 10 points for not knowing (or not using) standard mathematical notation. check 10 * Subject and Claims 8. 20 points for each of the following conjectures that you purport to have solved: Goldbach's conjecture; twin prime conjecture; Riemann Hypothesis, GRH; Fermat's Last Theorem (); infinitely many Mersennes, Fermats, primes of the form n^2+1...; or finding new patterns in the primes. check 20 9. 20 points for talking about how great your theory is, but never actually explaining it. check 20 Hubris 11. 10 points for pointing out that you have gone to school, as if this were evidence of sanity. check 10 14. 10 points for claiming that your work is revolutionary, a "paradigm shift," or a simple idea missed by all but you. check 10 * Process and Proof 17. 10 points for expecting others to disprove your result(s) rather than providing the proof yourself. check 10 22. 50 points for failing to respond to appropriate corrections, questions and challenges. check 50 50+50+10+20+20+10+10+10+50=230